“Greybeard,” I’m guessing that you are more of a right-brained, creative, artistic sort of person than a left-brained, mathematical/analytical/mechanical sort.
Posts by SAHS
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25The did it to me again... TOOK my wife, My Life, Family and Friends, this time I'm fighting fire with fire
by Greybeard inbaa bull onn (knock knock).
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Is Armageddon part of the Great Tribulation? what was WT writers word?
by prologos inor put into other words:.
is armageddon included in in "all the things" that are to come to pass during the 'generation' that jesus spoke about?.
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“prologos”: “. . . do not count on the Governing Body, FaDS to be around, they will have withdrawn before the climax is reached.”
Well, isn’t that just like those old geezers!
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Contradictory geneology of Jesus
by rebel8 inso i'm reading another carl sagan book and he seems to invariably find a way to slam j-dubs in each one.
(i can't say i blame him.).
anyway, in this one he discusses the fact that the gospels give contradictory geneologies of jesus--differing lines back to david from joseph, and a different number of generations.
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“rebel8”: “. . . the geneology should trace back to Mary, since she was his bio mom, not Joseph.”
That’s quite a valid point. You would think that would be the case, but it only shows the misogynist Jewish – and thusly WT’s – view of women. I would wonder why Almighty Jehovah would bother “transferring” the life of his only-begotton son, Jesus, into the womb of a particular Jewish woman, thus becoming Jesus’ “biological” mother, and then not consider her family lineage but, rather, her husband Joseph’s. That would certainly seem to lend itself to the usual, typical stretching of the WT’s “headship principle” – all well, it’s just Jesus.
Carl Sagan was quite a smart man. (It’s funny – my long-time elder dad speaks highly of his book, “A Brief History of Time.”) I think Mr. Sagan must have owned some kind of anti-bullshit glasses. He could certainly see through something like the WTS like it was made of the clearest glass.
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The did it to me again... TOOK my wife, My Life, Family and Friends, this time I'm fighting fire with fire
by Greybeard inbaa bull onn (knock knock).
baa bull onn (knock knock).
baa bull onn (knock knock).
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“Greybeard”: “WE BOTH WENT TO THE RECENT CONVENTION ON CANNABIS! BEST ONE SO FAR! I WAS ABLE TO LAUGH THOUGH THE ENTIRE . . .”
LOL! I can just picture you sitting there at the convention laughing away. That would have been priceless to see. It would have sort of taken the edge off it for me.
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Is Armageddon part of the Great Tribulation? what was WT writers word?
by prologos inor put into other words:.
is armageddon included in in "all the things" that are to come to pass during the 'generation' that jesus spoke about?.
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The way I understand the WT’s interpretation is that the “Great Tribulation” is really referring to a complete package of items to occur right after the sufficient fulfillment of the nations ‘crying peace and security,’ beginning with the destruction of Babylon the Great by the seven-headed, ten-horned wild beast and the apparent “celestial phenomenon” to immediately follow (whether symbolic, literal, or both), and ending with the actual Armageddon. According to this, you could think of the “Great Tribulation” as being like a giant .ZIP or .RAR archive file which gets “unpacked” at that point immediately after the “peace and security” proclamation thing when Babylon the Great is about to be turned on, which then presents all the individual items, like the individual, “uncompressed” files which together formed the composite “zipped” archive file.
In other words, the big .ZIP or .RAR self-extracting archive file is just waiting to be double-clicked by Jehovah, unpacking what is referred to by Jesus as being “all these things” when he said at Matthew 24:34: “Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.” (RNWT)
Jesus said in verse 21, “. . . for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now.” Then in verses 29 and 30, he said, “Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”
Regarding the quote by “leaving_quietly” mentioned above, “So, the tribulation does not culminate in Armageddon, according to Jesus. Right AFTER the tribulation, is when signs in heaven will be and when the "second coming" occurs,” that could not be correct. A correct rendering of that would read: “Right AFTER that specific part of the tribulation, . . .”; i.e., right after that initial phase of the Great Tribulation when Babyon the Great is to be turned on. The Great Tribulation refers to the whole thing – including Armageddon as the very last part of it.
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The did it to me again... TOOK my wife, My Life, Family and Friends, this time I'm fighting fire with fire
by Greybeard inbaa bull onn (knock knock).
baa bull onn (knock knock).
baa bull onn (knock knock).
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“Greybeard”: “I believe in Cannabis . . . If it wasn't for Cannabis, I would not be able to do any of this . . .”
I can tell.
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The "Preaching" Work As A Dead Parrot
by metatron inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dead_parrot_sketch.
inspired by a car salesman.
as with john cleese's apoplectic performance, there is never any admission that the "preaching" work, door to door in particular, is dead and has been for some time.
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“NewYork44M”: “The field service used to be a revenue center - selling magazines. Now, it is a cost center - every magazine given away is a cost.”
It may appear that the magazines just represent a cost because of so many being given away, but don’t forget this: the WTS gets revenue from any donations received out in the field service plus donations for each of the magazines from the publishers in the contribution box labelled “Worldwide Work,” plus the funds deposited into the other contribution boxes, such as the ones labelled something sort of like “Kingdom Hall Construction/Regional Building Committe Fund,” and “Local Kingdom Hall Expense Fund.”
So, the WTS certainly doesn’t depend on the donations from householders out in the field service. They already have things covered from all those other constant donations, or “contributions,” from each of the rank and file members.
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GOVERNING BODY PATTERNS OF DECEPTION
by Terry inpattern of excuses.
" zion's watch tower 1894 jul 15 p.226.
(compare isaiah 8:11-13.
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“b00mslang”: “@Apognophos Was that supposed to be a Portal Vid?
It's a great game but it makes me pine for some HL3. Dying to see if GLaDOS is on the Borealis. Replayed all of them last month (HL, Opposing Force, Blue Shift, Uplink, HL2, Ep1, Ep2). Might replay Azure Sheep and Todesangst (SP mods).”
Is that English?
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GOVERNING BODY PATTERNS OF DECEPTION
by Terry inpattern of excuses.
" zion's watch tower 1894 jul 15 p.226.
(compare isaiah 8:11-13.
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“Finkelstein”: “. . . strong arm tactics to make sure everyone agrees and answers yes. . . Read the information, then read the question that has the answer within the information, walk out of the Kingdom Hall spiritually brainwashed.”
This sure brings to mind the famous psychology experiment by Solomon Asch, which demonstrated the power of conformity in groups:
http://psychology.about.com/od/classicpsychologystudies/p/conformity.htm
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The "Preaching" Work As A Dead Parrot
by metatron inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dead_parrot_sketch.
inspired by a car salesman.
as with john cleese's apoplectic performance, there is never any admission that the "preaching" work, door to door in particular, is dead and has been for some time.
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The door-to-door preaching work is really a tool to reinforce the idea for individual JWs that they are “on the right track” for salvation because, after all, they can say to themselves, “Well, it’s far more than just me doing it – there’s almost eight million of us all doing it together worldwide!”