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  I yelled at dubs today ( again )

  by kairos in

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  so i roll up to the job site and looky there, two uber pioneer dubs dragging themselves down the sidewalk.

  both ladies are in there early 60's and born in.. my heart started pumping, but i had to act.i was directly across the street from them.

  i walked right to the sidewalk and said in a very loud, but not mean voice: "you can't teach overlapping generations from the bible!!

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  SAHS

  Yes, I believe in dropping some poignant “truth bombs” directly at JWs, but in a controlled and at least semi-respectful manner. It’s only fair, as the JWs have been going around pushing “NON-truth-bombs” (lies) at everyone’s doorstep for many decades. They have been spreading extremely insulting rhetoric and vitriol against “false religion” (non-JW religion) without even giving it a thought.

  So, if the JWs want to push their lies and ever-changing quirky propaganda, doing so while pounding the pavement for collectively millions of hours annually, then surely we have the right to politely call them on it and make them think. Remember: knowledge is the most powerful ointment for blind eyes.
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  District Assemblies now being held at Circuit Assembly locations?

  by ShirleyW in

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  i haven't been to a kh in decades, so i get the google alerts for jws and i got one featuring a local news channel in brooklyn covering the assembly being held in flatbush, brooklyn.

  i'm sure that venue is where the circuit assemblies are usually held, keeping in mind it's summer and that's when the district assemblies are being held.

  why are they acting like they're so strapped for cash and now holding district assemblies in circuit assemblies locations ?.

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  SAHS

  Actually, it would make economic sense for them in that their own assembly halls have already been paid for (many times over!), so holding district – I mean, regional – conventions in them would not include the significant overhead in the rental of large community venues such as sports arenas. And, don’t forget, their own lands have religious tax-exempt status!

  So, it seems that money just coming in rather than having to go out would be a great deal, indeed, for them.

  Although, there seem to be a lot of international – I mean special – conventions taking place in the very recent years. I guess these “special” occasions are an extra incentive for donations, including foreign as well as domestic.
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  Facial Hair

  by new boy in

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  since i have been out for seventeen years what is the currant society policy concerning beards and mustaches.. in the sixties and seventies facial hair was forbidden at bethel if you white.

  if you were black you could have mustache but no beards.

  so obviously you could not be elder or pioneer if you had a beard.. any updates?

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  “stumbledbyothers”: “In some cultures, a neatly trimmed beard may be acceptable and respectable, and it may not detract at all from the Kingdom message. In fact, some appointed brothers have beards.”

  What exactly is considered to be “acceptable and respectable,” at least in WT land? Well, “worldly” society is largely considered by the Watch Tower to be non-JW due to beards, tattoos, body piercings, holiday celebrators, etc. But those JW Pharisees are clearly ‘going beyond the things written.’
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  Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?

  by Whynot in

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  my husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.

  has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?

  we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.

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  There is a fairly well-attended group referred to as the “Ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses of Toronto” MeetUp group – https://www.meetup.com/oexjws/ – in the area of Toronto, Ontario (Canada). It is a completely relaxed atmosphere with no formal format. Spontaneity is its lifeblood. All are certainly welcome.
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  On leaving JW's and hating religion...

  by Jehalapeno in

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  it's been nearly 4 years now since i completely woke up to the watchtower lies.. thinking back on my jw life, during the time i believed, the organization truly did teach us to hate all beliefs that were contrary to the watchtower's.. i hated "false" religion.. so, when i finally woke up and applied critical thinking to my beliefs, i just went on hating religion in general...only this time i added jw's to that list.. a few months of waking up, i decided to base my beliefs on evidence.

  i didn't want to have a set of beliefs unless there was some logic or evidence behind it.

  so, now i consider myself an atheist.. and i kept on hating religion.. within the last six months or so, something has changed.

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  SAHS

  The thing which I suspect puts many people off the Watch Tower movement is that they have always promoted themselves as the one-and-only custodian and bastion of “truth,” but, as we all know only too well, their “truth” has always been their own rather unique and dogmatic interpretation of it – and any and everything but actual truth.

  Many folks use religious books (“holy writing”), such as the Judao-Christian Bible, in an attempt to validate their own socio-political views, which only too often are simply self-serving tools, or “tricks of the trade,” for their own vain aggrandizement.

  The Watch Tower did, however, once early on present a truth which is quite a factually sound and most poignant reality, which is when they had their followers go around in what they called “information marches” bearing signs and placards stating: “RELIGION IS A SNARE AND A RACKET!” Yes indeed, they got that truth bang-on right!
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  Sarah Huckabee Sanders Kicked Out Of Restaurant For Supporting Trump

  by minimus in

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  i think it’s ridiculous to kick people and families out of a restaurant because of politics.

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  No matter what a person’s affiliation – political, religious, or otherwise – no one has the right to deny them as a customer in a public enterprise or establishment. Everyone has basic, intrinsic human rights, without which, . . . . well, might I say: “North Korea.” (Enough said.)
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

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  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  SAHS

  Actually, I’m glad that this JW apologist, “BlackSpirit,” posted on here. It’s really an indictment of his religion fundamentalist sect, as well as a reinforcement of the complete lack of proof or logic of his WT stance. (The WT has an absolutely 100% failure rate for predictions and justification as its sole mouthpiece for an Almighty God.) Though, I know, it’s redundant, “BlackSpirit” has succeeded only in providing more iteration of the logical imperative of atheism.
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  Have No Fear! The Beard is Here! T Shirt

  by Iamallcool in

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  when i was young and i bought a simple shirt saying have no fear.

  my late dad instructed me to return the shirt back to the store!

  i reluctantly did so.

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  SAHS

  And God forbid somebody actually does have an actual, real, biological beard, Whoa! That would certainly be a one-way ticket to Gehenna – what with not only the brazen conduct (Greek a·selʹgei·a) but also stumbling others.

  That T-shirt is extremely offensive to Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Charles Taze Russell, and . . . . (oh, ya. I forgot).
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  Random Thought on Drugs/Tobacco Being Sinful Under JW Doctrine

  by neverendingjourney in

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  a friend of mine was telling me about her recent trip to peru.

  she said she had trouble with the altitude in certain areas of peru but the locals offered her a tea derived from the coca leaf and that helped tremendously with her symptoms.. i began to think about how i would have handled the situation as a jw given that coca contains an alkaloid that is used to produce cocaine.

  in its natural form, the content is very low and the locals use it as a stimulant similar to coffee.. however, as a jw i would have probably refused to drink it viewing it as something similar to a product derived from tobacco leaves.

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  “pale.emporer”: “In matters such as these, it's very normal for JWs to simply say "i'll ask the elders" or "i'll have to see what the society says"... never daring to think for themselves.”

  That’s the thing – JWs are so conditioned to seek the approval of their WTS controlling organization that they completely defer any decision-making to their most human and foible-prone “governing body.” (Notice that I didn’t capitalize “governing body” – that was, indeed, on purpose.)

  The JWs have been consistently conditioned to believe that a small handful of patriarchal men – the “governing body” – is the absolute final word on everything relating to their day-to-day lives and, indeed, their ultimate salvation. But, as 2 Corinthians 1:24 says, “Not that we are the masters over your faith.” But the WTS usurps one’s individual “thinking ability,” or “powers of perception,” by their disingenuous insistence on everyone following the “letter of the law” pertaining to their own arbitrary legalistic code of living.

  Yes, indeed – “common sense” doesn’t exactly rain supreme in the land of the WTS.
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  JWs and the Holocaust

  by Stealth in

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  the jws always like to highlight their persecution during the holocaust.

  while true, the chart below showing numbers of victims for jw was the lowest of all persecuted groups.

  even lower than spanish republicans.. im guessing there have been more victims due to the wt blood policy.

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  SAHS

  “Stealth”: “Im guessing there have been more victims due to the WT blood policy.”

  I think you may be right. When you factor in all the men, women, and children – including little babies – who have been killed on the altar of the Watch Tower, that is a very significant number of needless deaths.

  It’s quite scary how man-made religious fervour can successfully manipulate even the most supposedly “intelligent” among society.