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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

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  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

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  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  Yeah, Adam, I a theist, but I dont believe in original sin or that the Bible and Jesus areit or else. For me, Im not looking at this as black.and.white, this Texas thing. I wouldnt. want.to.be.inthe.shoes.of.either side.. Posting with phone, sorry for typos.
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

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  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  So you're getting the point, FHN, as it's NOT an abortion issue, but an issue of whether or not individuals have the right to determine what happens to their own bodies, while alive and after death. She didn't leave her wishes in writing, but it wouldn't have done ANY GOOD anyway, since the State law overrides. Her husband is next-of-kin, and has the right to make healthcare decisions, but once again, State law overrides, and JPS is seemingly misinterpreting the law, as described by Dr Fine above.

  I got the point that this has nothing to do with abortion from the time I heard about it. That's why when people act like this is a religious issue, it just doesn't make sense.

  I was thinking about something today. It would make more sense to me for an atheist to want to protect the sanctity of the life of the unborn, than a theist. If you believe this is your only chance at life, no heaven, not reincarnation, no after life of any kind, then it becomes a much bigger loss if your mother chooses to end her pregnancy and your only chance to live outside her womb. For those of us who don't believe that this is your only life. For those of us who don't believe an unborn loses any chance to live outside, if the pregnancy ends, it's not a finite issue.
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

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  2. current

  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  This is not an abortion issue, folks. I'm pro-choice. I can see your concerns as to the similarity, though. We don't know what the mother's wishes in this particular instance would be.
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

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  2. current

  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  And where did this concept of the fetus deserving a right to live come from, anyway? It SURE isn't found in the Bible....

  This question is not religious. You are alive because you made it to full gestation, were born and continued living. No one stopped your mother's pregnancy with you, before you were viable. I'm assuming you're glad you're here. Whether you're an atheist or thiest, you have to acknowledge that you wouldn't be here if you hadn't been born alive and viable. So there comes in the question of whether an unborn child has any rights to the chance of viability or to develop to full gestation and life beyond. Don't assume that everyone who thinks the child does have rights, bases this decision on religion.
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  Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

  by adamah in

  1. social
  2. current

  there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

  code ann.

  166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

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  FlyingHighNow

  Texas is not completely GOP, though one of my friends, who is a priest and a democrat, says he keeps his political views to himself because his town "Stinks with republicans".

  I don't know why people are making this about religion. Has the hospital really made this about religion?
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

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  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  FlyingHighNow

  Alternate, additional ideas don't have to be fleshed out into weeks and months of study.
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

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  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  FlyingHighNow

  I don't think Creationism has to be taught in school. On the other hand...

  I don't think it would hurt anything to express in some class along the line, that some feel that with the complexities of the material universe and the fact that we have life that is self aware, that there could be some deliberate, intelligent design behind our world. They use this _____ type of examples to illustrate the possibility of a designer. Some feel there is another life form they call spirit, which is self aware, intelligent and capable of thinking, creating, similarly to human beings. Some of the people who support this believe the material world had it's beginning with a designer. They feel their point of view is as legitimate as the theories of the Big Bang and Evolution. Some believe Evolution to be taking place as well. We will not discuss the possible religious aspects of this alternate point of view. (Although, I guess private schools might.) This is something you can find out about in World Religion classes and can investigate outside your school. It is noteworthy to add that a significant percentage of scientists do hold a belief in other self aware, intelligent beings of this spirit type.

  That's all that need be said. There doesn't have to be a drawn out course on it.
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  A Little Science Humor

  by metatron in

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  http://cheezburger.com/7995393024.

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  YW.
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  The Cult of N. Korea--Frontline's “Secret State of North Korea” compare to WTBTS--discussion

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  did any of you see this program on pbs?

  did you see how dangerously similar n. korea is to the wtbts?

  did you notice one huge difference, that north koreans are not brainwashed like most still active jws are?

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  I was struck both times by the woman who had broken the "dress code." At the time, women were not allowed to wear pants. She was very upset when confronted about it by the authorities, even risking arrest.

  One family wanted to defect to S. Korea and left one at the time. The woman being interviewed said she knew she was being watched, not just by authorities but by her neighbors, the latter putting her in danger of being reported. It's another similarity to the JWs, being turned in by friends and family and being dealt with.
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  Death Rituals . . . which do you prefer?

  by skeeter1 in

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  i was listening to dr. radio.

  a lady mortician was on.

  it was morbid, but wanted to share what she said.

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  FlyingHighNow

  There was no money to cremate or bury my nephew David. He died in New Mexico and his fiance couldn't afford to pay for anything and his parents, good JWs had disowned him because he didn't want to be baptized as a JW. The county paid for his cremation and gave David's ashes to my other nephew, TimeBandit here on JWN. Now I have some of them.