Agreed with everything said above. Also seems to go hand-in-hand with missing chunks of what was once known as Common Sense.
So not only can these people not laugh at themselves, they can't understand why they might need to.
Posts by jhi29
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9Why Do Religions Lack A Sense Of Irony?
by metatron inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iranians-behind-tehran-version-of-happy-sentenced-to-six-months-in-prison-and-91-lashes-9741014.html.
good grief.
the more fanatical the religion, the more it seems to lack a sense of self reflective irony.. .
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Who left or got stumbled over the 1995 generation thing?
by Julia Orwell inor the 2000's generation thing?.
how did you feel?
how did it help you wake up?
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jhi29
Vidiot--
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What Happened to the Religion I Left in 1995?
by JoshJeffries injosh here, new to the board.
glad to know this site is here.. i would not be writing this if it were not 2014. i was a ministerial servant and regular pioneer who left the jehovahs witnesses back in 1995/96, around that time.
i left suddenly, didnt fade away, just left when something clicked one day in my head during the morning shower and made me realize this religion wasnt true.
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SafeAtHome-- I truly don't know. I washed my hands of the whole thing when I left. I'm guessing since she converted her 2nd husband to the religion that she's probably still in it, likely for guilt if they're still married.
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What Happened to the Religion I Left in 1995?
by JoshJeffries injosh here, new to the board.
glad to know this site is here.. i would not be writing this if it were not 2014. i was a ministerial servant and regular pioneer who left the jehovahs witnesses back in 1995/96, around that time.
i left suddenly, didnt fade away, just left when something clicked one day in my head during the morning shower and made me realize this religion wasnt true.
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Oubliette-- "What happened to the religion I joined in the '80s?"
I would gladly read your thread. Great idea. I might even rub a few leftover jdub-trained brain cells together to recall the 'heyday' of obeisance of the time and post my recollections from 1985-beyond. -
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What Happened to the Religion I Left in 1995?
by JoshJeffries injosh here, new to the board.
glad to know this site is here.. i would not be writing this if it were not 2014. i was a ministerial servant and regular pioneer who left the jehovahs witnesses back in 1995/96, around that time.
i left suddenly, didnt fade away, just left when something clicked one day in my head during the morning shower and made me realize this religion wasnt true.
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jhi29
I clearly remember a convo had by active jdubs when I was in my late teens, sometime early '90's. We were waxing lyrically about Pioneer School (couldn't wait until I could graduate and take my PS place!), and one lady, fabulously subversive in her own quiet way, asked us hypothetically: if the Society told you not to wear brown shoes in FS ever, would you obey the instruction?
I heard all kinds of falderol-- we should obey because... it's only out of love that they would say... we must trust in the Brothers...
I remember asking, almost musing aloud, something to the effect of: why should someone obey something that makes no sense? The room got quiet. I think someone awkwardly changed the subject. That was yet another brick falling from the wall. -
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Who left or got stumbled over the 1995 generation thing?
by Julia Orwell inor the 2000's generation thing?.
how did you feel?
how did it help you wake up?
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jhi29
Dumb question... does JW.org offer a comprehensive description of the current flavor of their beliefs for public consumption?
I remember being mortified by *having* to bring Schools and JW brochure to my teachers every freaking year to prove that I am not allowed to have any fun, any celebrations, any anything 'worldly'. It gave the slam-bam basics, and I wonder what's its replacement?
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What Happened to the Religion I Left in 1995?
by JoshJeffries injosh here, new to the board.
glad to know this site is here.. i would not be writing this if it were not 2014. i was a ministerial servant and regular pioneer who left the jehovahs witnesses back in 1995/96, around that time.
i left suddenly, didnt fade away, just left when something clicked one day in my head during the morning shower and made me realize this religion wasnt true.
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jhi29
Damn... it's been 17 years since I've stepped near a KH, and yet Josh quotes a OKM song and I've got the melody back in my head like white on rice. Yet another way I tried so ridiculously hard to prove to Big J that I was worth His Big Love, sing songs of praise to Him. Uck. ;P
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Who left or got stumbled over the 1995 generation thing?
by Julia Orwell inor the 2000's generation thing?.
how did you feel?
how did it help you wake up?
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jhi29
Holy moley these comments out here are amazing! I am gobsmacked trying to make sense of all the ludicrous changes WTS has made under the patented Big J's tacit and absolute approval!!! A bunch of old mostly white dudes who somehow got hold of Big J's private number... kinda like the pope.
My memory is shaky at best on the doctrine I walked away from around 1997. I was fading fast by then already. I think really the Rev Grand Climax book study happening around that time was my limit. The complex idiocy-- exactly like a sci-fi novel written by an adrenaline junkie-- of their interpretive two-step of what amounts to John of Patmos' wet dream was breaking through the glossy perfection of their mind control over me.
I'm reading this and other reputable x-jdub blogs slowly, trying to absorb the clear insanity of where WTS has taken things without being dragged down and wiped out by it. I see aspects of my personal healing journey needing this kind of revisit, tie up loose ends, find out what my lovely young niece has to face being raised in this hot mess... I genuinely couldn't fathom the notion that it could get worse than when I left it in my dust. I still read in astonishment. *head-shaking*
Thanks to all who are honesty sharing, even perhaps risking your own confidentiality, to keep the light of day on this jdub madness. -
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What Happened to the Religion I Left in 1995?
by JoshJeffries injosh here, new to the board.
glad to know this site is here.. i would not be writing this if it were not 2014. i was a ministerial servant and regular pioneer who left the jehovahs witnesses back in 1995/96, around that time.
i left suddenly, didnt fade away, just left when something clicked one day in my head during the morning shower and made me realize this religion wasnt true.
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"It radically altered their theology with its new translation of John 17:3 (but JWs don't seem to have noticed)."
Thanks for your reply, sir82. But can you explain a bit more-- how did it change their theology? I'm not seeing the radical difference between 2013 NWT and New American Standard Bible (NASB).
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"I don't care if it's teachings are false, I'd never leave because it's the best way of life"
by 4thgen inhave you ever heard that statement?
i have heard it many times and i just don't know what to do with it.
they are chosing a to live a lie because they like the lifestyle.
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jhi29
Some people prefer to live in denial. It's much easier than facing reality or making your own decisions. They've convinced themselves they live in truth or as close to truth as is humanly possible, but they do not bother with such things as reality.