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  A quick summary of topics and issues wrong with jws

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you know how our minds often get all "fuzzy" and confused when we are put on the spot and asked to come up with points?

  we often tend to lose focus and go off on tangents?.

  im trying to compile a basic list of bullet points for the most obvious and clear problems / doctrines / history of witnesses that can blow the org out of the water.. it is more for the purpose of getting my own thoughts clear rather than using it to talk to witnesses (as that doesn't really work).

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  But the main problem, god would not have a necessity for making up all this structure... It's simply not elegant as the "intelligent design" is claimed to be... hahaha
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  A quick summary of topics and issues wrong with jws

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you know how our minds often get all "fuzzy" and confused when we are put on the spot and asked to come up with points?

  we often tend to lose focus and go off on tangents?.

  im trying to compile a basic list of bullet points for the most obvious and clear problems / doctrines / history of witnesses that can blow the org out of the water.. it is more for the purpose of getting my own thoughts clear rather than using it to talk to witnesses (as that doesn't really work).

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  • Blood policy!
  • Education policy!
  • Kids getting baptized (and no "confirmation" process as in the Catholic church)
  • No inter-religious marriages
  • F*****g ugly formal dressing
  • A set of made up rules (the time report)
  • Kids are not allowed to engage in friendship with "non-believers"
  • No charityPopular culture expressions are frown at
  • No toasts!
  • Demanding routineIdiotic "studying" program
  • Criticism not allowed
  • No breards
  • Etc...
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  Display of National Flags in Kingdom Halls in Chile: WTS' Response

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.

  many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!

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  I really hope that next September I can upload a picture of our beautiful Chilean Flag on top of the Branch Offices :D hehehehe
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  Is 40 days without food the best choice?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in chapter 4 of luke it says jesus went into the wilderness and he ate nothing but fasted forty days and forty nights..

  now i dont know about any of you but i once got on a 5 day liquid diet and only lasted 2 days.

  i was so hungry that even when i fell asleep i started dreaming a hot brunette was handing me a couple of slices of pizza.

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  He ordered some McPeyote Nuggets at McDaniels 
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  At the meeting ... Ugh

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at least i have this forum.

  is there a shorthand for referring to this website?

  saying jehovahs-witness.com seems like a long winded way..

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  stuckinarut2 I LOVED THE SOUND BOX!!!

  The only thing that kept me sane! I remember looking up the forum as a lurker from my iPhone 3G, I was the only one who could properly adjust the mixer and amp, so I was in charge 95% of the time, and when there were trouble the other 5% of the time they called me up from the public to solve the issues hahahaha :)

  
  
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  Just returned from South America

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just came back from visiting family in south america (will keep the name of the country out for now) and i was shocked by the amount of jws i saw on the street.

  keep in mind that most countries in sa have been under military rule until the early 80s, with the general fear and mindset sticking around until the late 90s, even when the military was gone and democracy re established.

  jw were not around when i lived there.

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  Mmm.. I can tell from here, Chile, that that literature "carts" or "stands" are everywhere downtown... So, I went to a new year party on December 31 night, my GF and I went out of the satanic-disco at 10AM on Jan 1st, and guess what... There were JW "preaching" with the stands in the downtown, the streets were empty!!! But they were giving testimony! I think it's all about getting more visible, at least here I can't say we have a big time growth...
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  Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.

  this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.

  it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.

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  It seems to be a cultural difference like the "beard thing" in the nordic countries, here un Chile, the young are VERY frown upon entering "Higer Education", brothers and sisters would tell you things like "and how many years that would take, oh I HOPE YOU HAVE THE TIME BEFORE THIS SYSTEM ENDS", "you better look for a non-medical field because if you choose a medical carreer you'll have no job in the new system"...

  
  
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  What is truth?

  by Heisenberg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

  i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

  they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

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  Welcome Heisenberg... Hey! Remember that words doesn't have only one meaning... If you look up the meaning we use here for CULT that is:
  Note that the below definition is the first that appears when you loop up at www.tfd.com

  cult

  (kŭlt)

  n. 1. a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. -or- A religious organization or movement which deviates from the established religious tradition in the community.
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  What's Your Favorite Perfume or Cologne?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is xmas time and perfumes and colognes are on the list.

  what do you really love for a scent if you were being given a gift?.

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  go Guerlain!
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  How to disassociate? HELP

  by Mandrake in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm looking for a way to disassociate myself, now i'm thinking to make a "public declaration" before a civil law notary (i'm in chile), but i need some ideas about what to put in that declaration, i would like to look the "ks" book to cover all possible sides and make a solid declaration... any experiences?

  my plan is to make that legal declaration that would say "i'm no longer consider myself a jehovah's witness nor want to be linked to any of the wt organizations or legal entities, and want all my personal records to be erased"... any orientation will be helpful :).

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  Thank you for all your opinions, as a background I can tell you that I'm a born in but only mother and father are witnesses, the rest of my family don't. I have a few friends inside but they know that I already DONT believe in the cult anymore and are even willing to keep in contact with me if I get DF o DA. My family broke up a year ago in a very very painful and bitter way so elders know I have a worldly girlfriend and I'm inactive... I'm more and more involved with my university friends and to be honest I feel ready for the final step... Well I'm thinking of making that official declaration, and keep it to myself and wait (months, even years) to show it to the elders and get them to give the "announce", It can be possible that I even won't show it at all, but making it will be by some reason a relief for me... I'll tell you what happens :) thank you again, It's been almost 2-3 year of lurking before strating to post :)