Simom17 -
made a statement just above that is worth our time to reflect upon, and ended with the best advice about what to do with our life.
Simom17 -
made a statement just above that is worth our time to reflect upon, and ended with the best advice about what to do with our life.
we live in democratic, not theocratic times.. churches no longer imprison, torture or execute.. cults have absolutely no authority over non members.
we don't have to obey.
we don't have to subject our selves.
Rebel 8-
Had some time to surf around the site you linked to. Lots of good stuff there and some good laughs too. Thanks
we live in democratic, not theocratic times.. churches no longer imprison, torture or execute.. cults have absolutely no authority over non members.
we don't have to obey.
we don't have to subject our selves.
Jeannette-
The elders have been '..after you.' from the day you were baptised.
Thousands of people inside the congregations are sick and tired of living their entire spiritual lives in fear of being separated from their families ,and this is the most viable approach yet to JUST SAY NO to ecclesial bullying of mature adults.
After deliverying such a directive, the only question remaining is us asking the elders , ''What don't you understand about Freedom of Religion?''
my parents and i are discussing a quote that was made many years ago.
we know for a fact that it was made.
i have exhausted all of my resources to find it, and so i come here to this fine group to ask you about this quote.. the subject is about money.
Yep -
good old Chucky Russell.
Way back when he was still pumped - having realized there was more money in tax free donations than there ever would be in haberdashery.
christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.
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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .
Cryto-
You said-
''...I can't emphasize how nice the people are there. They don't seem like mindless, zombie drones. They are very lovable people..''
Please, please just hang around at the hall long enough for them to ascertain that you are never going to become a JW- you'll be discarded and thrown under the first passing bus, the nice people will forget all about you in one heartbeat, and no mention of your name , your faith or your existence will ever come to their lips again.
It's already happened to many on this site, and you absolutely must hang about at the kingdom hall to witness it happen to you.
i was thinking what to get you all for christmas this year to say thanks for all of the great thoughtful posts, for lending a helping hand to those who needed it, defending the community of ex witnesses when necessary and always sharing ideas and questions.. i looked for something that was a 'one size fits all' but also personal enough to put a smile on your faces, to ease your troubles and a gift you could share with others.. on a personal note i being of a more advanced age sometimes wake up with a little cloud over my head.
time is running out on our one precious moment on this planet and it's easy to get a bit 'under the weather especially around the holidays.. so the following may come at a good time......use it well and thoughtfully.. the address tells you what you will find but it doesn't tell you how funny and richly awarding it will prove to be.. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/21/sports/football/at-107-a-buffalo-bills-fan-who-sees-it-all.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=homepage&module=mini-mothion=top-stories-below&wt.nav=top-stories-below.
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Thanks Giordano,
that was a fun read. The lives of ordinary people-wow.
i don't understand the relevance of the first picture in this weeks study article?!?!.
wt week of december 15-21 "cherish your privilege of working with jehovah".
can someone post the pic?.
If that building were a public hospital needing labour I would help out
Miracles happen in hospitals not in cult headquarters..
Me too -
Book Study Conductor - remember all that Ohola And Oholiba perversion -whoredom bullshit? Poor Freddy should have had the meds we have now
Literature Slave- used to throw in money just to make the figure balance at monthes end - not much of an accountant
Service Overseer- not bad, i aways loved maps. hated to accompany the reall zealous looneys- couldn't tear them away fron people
Watchtower Conductor - finally did me in, Icould no longer entertain comments about crap I didn't believe anymore
Walked away in good standing, just like lots of you are about to do, only we are now going to PREPARE
we live in democratic, not theocratic times.. churches no longer imprison, torture or execute.. cults have absolutely no authority over non members.
we don't have to obey.
we don't have to subject our selves.
Stuck in -
You said '' ..it can't be any worse than all of us being stuck here on this forum..''
The cults drones must chuckle when they see the power of fear that stifles the lives of people on here.... people who will piss and moan for decades but won't DO anything for fear of reprisals from their stupid collective of ignorant, deluded pussies.
Can you pictue colored people still, now, sixty years after the founding of civil rights movement - still just grumbling among themselves because they have to drink from a broken rusty relic of a fountain down some dusty alley while others drank cool water from a lovely structure right in the middle of a beautiful park and library ??
They stopped grumbling and united with right thinking people and they ACTED. They prepared , organized strategized and committed to change.
We need a few Rosa Parks - quiet, intelligent, industrious unassuming and mad as hell about the hateful things rained down on good decent people by ignorant, bigot bullies.
From among the thousands on here, we need some Rosas and Rosses who will sit at the front of the hall, who will stay in their seats when the conductors start yelling, to stay at the hall with your kids and grandkids even when the ignorant pretend you don't exist.
These will be like her, good people exemplary in every way, but who will no longer allow the cults imaginary fear and power to divide them from their families. Break the cults power first by rejecting it and then by refusing to acknowlege that it has any legitimacy for free people. It does not.
We need to prepare a method to viscerate a pompous authority we hate.
we live in democratic, not theocratic times.. churches no longer imprison, torture or execute.. cults have absolutely no authority over non members.
we don't have to obey.
we don't have to subject our selves.
Rebel 8 -
Thanks for your reply and link.
Many here still have family in, and don't want to lose contact. We must act first to preempt their position of power.
Never use cult-speak or 'theocratic' (puke) terminology - it just inflates their sense of importance. Stay legal, stay concise.
No room for emotional appeals either, just state the source of your rights and assert that they have now been exercised - fait accompli !
The initial contact needs to be decisive enough to clearly remove oneself from ecclesial control yet not disclosing any information that can be construed into a cult juducial action.
We seek emancipation only - not confrontation.