I told some jw's about things in the Bible we do not believe as they are written ... they say I have apostate ideas.
And that I came to those apostate ideas because I am not married and no one to help me spiritually, poor me! ha ha
paradisebeauty
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What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"
by PhilsWager2 inyour going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!
i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.
revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.
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Women are Women and Men are men in the Real World , apparently not in J.W.`s world.
by smiddy inaccording to j.w.`s the 144000 are a literal number of people , both men and women taken from the earth to rule with christ jesus in the heavens .this would also include judging in this role.
(see another thread about women as judges).
women in the religion of j.w.`s have no place in leadership roles ,cannot be elders , ministerial servants , or serve in any position of authority , and have no teaching voice in any congregation .. yet faithful anointed women can , upon their death rule with christ jesus in heaven for 1000 years according to j.w.
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paradisebeauty
The 144.000 are Jewish people, as the bible says. To admit this would put the GB is trouble.
The only covenant for Christians is the new covenant.
There is no covenant for a kingdom with Christians. There is an assignment that Jesus gives to the 12 apostles, who are Jews. In Luke 22:29 the word "covenant" does not appear there.
The wt admits there is no word covenant there.If you have NWT with references, look at the apendix, pages 1584-1585 7D “Covenant” , it is an apendix for the word covenant and there are listed all the verses where "covenant" appears, Luke 22:29 is not among them.
So the NWT with References appendix is proof they mistranslated Luke 22:29 and inserted a covenant for the kingdom with the disciples.
It is not like the kingdom is taken from the Jews and given to Christians, but rather the new covenant allows people from other nations who become Christians to co-inherit the kingdom with Jews. It is an extension, not a replacement.
The number in revelations refers to Jewish people who will have a special place in God's kingdom, not to all anointed.
More about the invented covenant of the wt, a covenant that no one else finds in the bible, but the greedy GB of WT:
http://perimeno.ca/Letters_0611_covenant-for-a-kingdom.htm
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Women are Women and Men are men in the Real World , apparently not in J.W.`s world.
by smiddy inaccording to j.w.`s the 144000 are a literal number of people , both men and women taken from the earth to rule with christ jesus in the heavens .this would also include judging in this role.
(see another thread about women as judges).
women in the religion of j.w.`s have no place in leadership roles ,cannot be elders , ministerial servants , or serve in any position of authority , and have no teaching voice in any congregation .. yet faithful anointed women can , upon their death rule with christ jesus in heaven for 1000 years according to j.w.
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paradisebeauty
The wt society does not understand the concept of the new creation, though the Bible is speaking so much about it.
http://www.openbible.info/topics/new_creation_in_christ
The purpose of God is the new creation, and that is what He means by "Look, I make all things new!"
But this light has avoided the GB ... and this is why they need to change their "understanding" every 2 years and go round and round in circles with their false teachings.
Those 7 men in the GB are bluffing.
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Leaving the org and marriage possibly ending
by atacrossroads ini was raised a witness, baptized at 16, vacation pioneered, got married, etc.
i was very much your typical witness and believed it was the truth until last summer.
a very close relative of mine left the witnesses.
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paradisebeauty
It is good that they live you alone now.
When you spend holidays, if they say something give them that verse that says you should not judge others for considering a day above others, say christmas is for you a period when people are kind to one another, a celebration of humanity in people, and new year is a new beginning. it is not religious nowadays.
Memorize some verses like the one who says no one should be a master over another person's faith.
Be very concise when you speak with elders or your husband about this matters, give them a verse and shut them up about judging you.
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Could this be the future for the Watchtower?
by C0ntr013r inbeen researching the mormons a little since they are quite similar to the jws.
they have a similar webpage and many videos to "help" the mormons in their faith.
i found this video done by abc4 news:.
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paradisebeauty
I am sorry for the kids in jw's families who are pressured into being baptised from a young age, just so that the GB's statistics would look good. -
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Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...
by Calebs Airplane inwithin the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.
however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.
he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.
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@ Calebs Airplane
You can send the quotes to the commission. They are very nice and answer back to emails, thanking you. .
Here is their email:
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Will the resurrected marry/have children?
by davidmitchell ini have just finished reading 'brock talon's' two books.
in one of them, entitled journey to god's house, pub.
he comments on how the wt's pictures of the post-armageddon world do not agree with their doctrines, namely that those who are physically resurrected will not marry/have children.
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paradisebeauty
The GB is bluffing. They get it wrong from the beginning.
The purpose of God in not paradise on this earth, it is the transformation of men into a new creation. This is also the purpose of the 1000 years kingdom - to decide who gets transformed into the new man. Some will be transformed at the beginning of the 1000 years, some at the end, after the last judgement.
Jesus was resurrected as the new man, He was the first one of this new creation. This is the reason why jw's can not explain what happened with Jesus's body, and they came with that explanation of Jesus materializing himself, taking different bodies. They do not get this idea of a new creation and a new man that the letters of the apostles talk about. Jesus talked about this in metaphors and parables, because this was part of the sacred secret revealed after the resurrection of Jesus.
Paul says if the sacred secret would have been known before, the authorities of this world would not have crucified Jesus. The big surprise was that Jesus was resurrected as a new kind of man, immortal and indestructible. This is the way the saved ones will be resurrected. But there will also be resurrection for people who are not yet saved, the unjust, those will be resurrected as normal humans, of flesh and blood, as we are now.
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Is Jackson embarrassed to be a JW?
by Doubting Bro ini listened to the majority of jackson's part one testimony and it seems apparent to me that he either:1) is embarrassed to be a jw or 2) doesn't really believe.
i've heard countless times from the platform and in print that we should be proud to be jws and take every opportunity to defend our beliefs.
yet, it seems jackson didn't even want to admit that he believed he was being directly used by jehovah to lead the congregation as his spokesman.
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@ DB
I have to tell my workmates or school mates at every opportunity my beliefs but Mr. Jackson can't tell a lawyer what his beliefs are?
You are right, minions of jw's have to preach that seven men living in Brooklyn are God's spokesmen on earth, as crazy as this sounds, they have to preach it with all seriousness.
If any jw says they do not believe / are not sure that the GD is God's only channel of communication on earth, they will be immediately disfellowshiped.
And here comes Jackson saying it would be presumptuous to say they are God's spokesmen ...
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Mr Jackson said we would notice if the GB said things outwith the scriptures????
by notsurewheretogo inin the rc yesterday mr jackson said that if wrong direction was given by the gb, the rank and file would notice it.
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i see plenty of things that the gb say that is not in scriptures but if i say the gb are wrong i'm df....
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paradisebeauty
@ StarTrekAngel
the current interpretation of scripture - can't they see how wrong this sounds?
The scripture is the scripture and it does not chance. Unless their doctrine that changes every other month ...
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Mr Jackson said we would notice if the GB said things outwith the scriptures????
by notsurewheretogo inin the rc yesterday mr jackson said that if wrong direction was given by the gb, the rank and file would notice it.
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i see plenty of things that the gb say that is not in scriptures but if i say the gb are wrong i'm df....
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paradisebeauty
Exactly my thoughts. Tell them about things is the Bible they do not take into account or don't believe the way it is written and u get labeled as apostate and disfellowshiped.