do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
I do, absolutely. studied a lot and the Bible is more clear to me now.
I think that the jw's are close but not the whole truth, they have some things that still comes from false doctrine.
They are right about no trinity, about the soul, about the kingdom on earth, but there are many other doctrines where they are somewhere between the mainstream christianity and the Bible.
a good source just just told me that at morning worship today that the governing body announced that a total of 1600 bethelites will be let get go and not transferred to warwich when the last property is sold in brooklyn and all kingdom hall building projects are on hold for at least a year so that all the focus will be on the preaching work.
please, who can provide an intelligent rebuttal to the following illustration?
i always thought it was bullet-proof:.
"if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?
I meant they did not want the christians to come in conflict with jews.
the letter that watchtower free put up was very interesting.
here is my impression.. the watchtower is becoming more and more geared towards idiots.
the midweek meeting has a stupid name, and the parts sound equally dumb.
Mille,
Maybe the stupid don't have money, but they are many, and they look good on statistics. And statistics pump up the egos of the gov. body.
... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
Here is my theory on blood and I know it might sound crazy to some. But as Paul said: things that the eyes did not see and the ears did not hear about.
I believe the new creation, the new man, the immortal ones are humans who do not function on blood.
After Jesus was ressurected he said to Thomas, touch me, see that is me, a spirit does not have bones and flesh. He did not say blood and flesh. Plus his blood was given for our redemption. Not that I think that the new creation / new man has normal bones and flesh, I actually think they have a body of another kind of matter, an imperishable matter.
And I also think the new body functions by holy spirit. And needs nothing else. Holy spirit is simbolozed by water in the Bible, this is why Jesus talked about living water.
The life of the old human is in the blood. The spirit is the life of the new human/ the new immortal creation.
I believe the blood of Jesus meant what we all know it mean, but the body, simbolized by bread, meant this new body, this new immortal human race, ammong which Jesus is the first one. And he now has the power to transform others, and he will, when he comes back.
This is why Jesus was saying we have to "eat" his body - he meant we have to become like him, with a similar body, of the same kind, of the same matter as his.
as i've mentioned from time to time, i'm a retired accountant.
i have tried many times to come up with some logical, sound business reason why the wtbs has made the big changes in its financial arrangements: taking the congregations savings, the monthly donations per congregation etc.
i finally came up with the answer.. the leadership of the watchtower society is batshit crazy.
You can tell they are bluffing!!!
They should call it a bluff! Just admitt they have no guidance, they have no inspiration. They are just a gang of average men who were misguided by their egos.
in my mind i see this as a very real situation developing rapidly world wide as these child molestation pay out become public knowledge and can no longer be denied or kept secret from the r&f.
pretty soon the governing body will be the but of many jokes at headquarters and abroad.
they are being caught red handed while robbing the cookie jar.
Memebers leaving is not a solution. I hope a total separation of uk branch, for example. The branches are organized as separate charities. It would only take for the board of directors of the charity to agree on separation, not of every memeber.
I do not think there even needs to be a legal separation, they just need to stop obeying the orders of gov. body and stop sending them money.
please, who can provide an intelligent rebuttal to the following illustration?
i always thought it was bullet-proof:.
"if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?
Read acts 15 verse 21. It is the next verse after the "command" on the blood and it says why they gave it: because there were comunities of jews in every major town! They did not want the christians to come in conflict with christians.
in my mind i see this as a very real situation developing rapidly world wide as these child molestation pay out become public knowledge and can no longer be denied or kept secret from the r&f.
pretty soon the governing body will be the but of many jokes at headquarters and abroad.
they are being caught red handed while robbing the cookie jar.
I thought of this, too. If only the uk branch would separate .... the wt. is over. Or the Germany (Selters) branch.
Everything that is printed for europe and middle east, even some parts of africa, I think is printed in uk and Selters.
october 4, 2015. to all congregations.
re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.
dear brothers:.
