Posts by paradisebeauty

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When did the Great Crowd start forming?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i realize that rutherford received a flash of light regarding the identity of the gc in the year 1935, but that does not tell us when the crowd began to form.

what would be the earliest date?

any ideas or quotes from wt literature?

paradisebeauty

When Rutherford started drinking too much.

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If there is anything to bible prophecy, keep an eye out on Israel

by EndofMysteries in

what will be the end game whether in a few years, our lifetime, or hundreds + years from now.

bible prophecy did say israel / jews would be scattered then eventually brought back.

russell was declaring that and it was believed before being changed shortly before it happened.

People don't realise that one of the prophecies not yet fulfilled about Jesus is that God would give Him the throne of his father David - one of the first things said about Jesus, right before he was born, when Gabriel was announcing his birth.

The small rock that would distroy all other kingdoms is Israel ruled by Jesus.

This is one of the points that jw's get wrong.

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Would Jesus have been disfellowshipped by the "Elders" of his day . . . . . .

by Dunedain in

i bet jesus would have been df'd by the "elders" in his day.

lets think about it, jesus hung out with "worldly" people.

his closest friends were known prostitutes, money collectors, men of "prominence" in the world of that day, non "beleivers" of the "faith" like samaritans, and many others that todays "elders" would have deemed "unworthy".. jesus spoke against the "organization" and "elders" of his day.

paradisebeauty

ABSOLUTELY!!!

447

Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

paradisebeauty

@cofty

I believe the bible is the word of God. If you read the Bible, the hope is composed of:

- kingdom of God coming

- immortality for believers

This is what I believe!!

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E-Mail, Just recived. About Bethell adjustments.

by DwainBowman in

i just read an email from a friend, and she shared some very interesting emails from her friends about information on changes now happening at the bethels around the world.

here is the email: .

---------------------------------thanks sally, jesus is directing the org and all decisions and instructions to us may not seem practical from now on, neither will we understand the reasonings behind many of the changes that the organization makes.

paradisebeauty

We do understand. Their stupidity led them to spending too much and being sued for millions of dollars. Now they have to pay, from the money donated by people for the preaching work!!!

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My Opinions on whats going on in WT land - Insider Information

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i'd like to state that i currently have "privileges" in the congregation and volunteer at bethel on and off throughout the year.

that's as much information as i will currently give about myself.. starting off, i think something big is coming in the form of lawsuits and bad pr.

they seem to be batting down the hatches in preparation for something the last few years and even more so the last few months.

paradisebeauty

@ thedepressedsoul

Thank you for your insight. Very interesting. I'm also looking forward to see how things will develop.

I am still a jw, but inactive ... I think I will stay a little more to see how things go..

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

paradisebeauty

@ cofty

I think the kingdom of God where Jesus will rule is a true doctrine, just that Jesus will be here on earth. I do not believe the purpose of God is to transform this planet in a paradise. I believe the purpose of God is to give immortality to some people, to people who believe and love God.

Jesus preached 2 things: the kingdom and immortality. Not eternal life as a flesh and blood human being as the jw's say, immortality as a new kind of human being, the new creation, a type of human being with unperishable bodies, like Jesus was after resurrection.

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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

by LaurenM in

do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

paradisebeauty

I do, absolutely. studied a lot and the Bible is more clear to me now.

I think that the jw's are close but not the whole truth, they have some things that still comes from false doctrine.

They are right about no trinity, about the soul, about the kingdom on earth, but there are many other doctrines where they are somewhere between the mainstream christianity and the Bible.

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Brooklyn Layoffs and Halt to Kingdom Hall construction projects

by James Jack in

a good source just just told me that at morning worship today that the governing body announced that a total of 1600 bethelites will be let get go and not transferred to warwich when the last property is sold in brooklyn and all kingdom hall building projects are on hold for at least a year so that all the focus will be on the preaching work.

paradisebeauty

I wonder if special pioneers will also be let go ...

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Need Help with Blood Transfusion Illustration

by Dissonant15 in

please, who can provide an intelligent rebuttal to the following illustration?

i always thought it was bullet-proof:.

"if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

paradisebeauty

I meant they did not want the christians to come in conflict with jews.