http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html#.
the national organization for jehovah's witnesses was ordered to pay $13.5 million to a san diego man who says he was abused as a child by his bible teacher.
nbc 7's rory devine reports on oct. 30, 2014.
Hah its all coming out now isn't it? The more people who claim their rightful compensation the more victims will all come out of the woodwork. This could get VERY messy for those evil men at the WBTS.
I just hope JW's everywhere get to hear of all these horrific cases and that it might make them think something is seriously wrong in their brainwash world.
i am here for the first time ...but have enjoyed reading others experiences that i feel i can relate too.
i used to be an elder for more than 20 years .
i have successfully faded with my wife and children.
Hey welcome WideAwake7. We had a sort of similar situation this year, its was just before me and my husband finally left the org. We were invited to a wedding of one of my childhood friends who my family had known for years, my brother who left in his late teens was also invited as he and the groom had been extremely good friends when they were growing up.
My brother wasn't sure whether to go as the last time he had been in a KH was my own wedding 8 years ago, in the end he decided he should as they had obviously made the effort to include him when most witnesses wouldn't bother. Basically we went and everyone was lovely to him, nobody ignored him and he said he felt very comfortable. The worrying thing though he said was that when he was in the KH he said it felt like the most natural thing in the world for him to be and that it seemed "normal" to be there! This coming for an atheist!
I think people were genuinly pleased to see him as it was our group of old friends but I also think that they were hopeful that this wedding might bring him back. I had made quite clear beforehand to some who mentioned it that it would def not do that, and it didn't! But in general he had a really good time and wasn't made to feel awkward with pressure to return etc. None of them know yet that we have stopped going too now :/ not sure how to deal with that one........
I think as these people are your genuine friends and obviously really want you be at their wedding, I wouldn't worry about what other people think or say, as it's a wedding im sure they will just want things to go smoothly for the bride and groom. I expect you will get "lovebombed" quite heavily but would imagine conversation wont get much deeper than "oh its so lovely to see you, how have you been?" etc. At wedding's even witnesess are more relaxed, especially if alcohol is involved! I find hanging out with any non-JW family that may attend is a good way to ensure you have a good time! We had some on our table who were a real laugh.
Anyway i hope you have a good time and look forward to hearing your story.
FF x
ok so aparently there was this young girl who wanted to study with the jw's because she loved the bible so much.
she asked her fathers permission but he refused, after much nagging though he said she could have a study if she was prepared to have one of her fingers chopped off.
he thought the is would stop her but she was willing so he got a knife and cut off one of her fingers... a little while later she wanted to attend the meetings and he said no and again when nagged said she could attend meetings if she had another finger chopped off so she agreed and he chopped off a second finger.
Hahahahaha what a load of s*@*! That has to be the most horrific and sick "experiance" I have ever heard.
obviously he didn't.. so now they can because the dictators say it's ok.. and jw's think their religion isn't a high control group?.
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You know I have always wondered why they have no congragation planned social activities or groups etc. It always has to come down to indivuals within the congregation to organise anything social. I came to the conclusion it was that they as an organisation didn't want to be in anyway responsible if something went wrong. They are happy to leave it up to the individuals to sort out social events etc and let them take the flack if something were to happen.
I look at the church over the road from us and think how nice it is that they have so many social things going on in their community hall. Coffee mornings, play group for toddlers, family fun days etc. as well as all the useual churchy stuff. Not that I want to join that church or anyother just to me it makes sense to have church based social events and include everyone instead of just all the silly, stuck up, little clicks that form within the kingdom hall or to be fair any large group really, meaning people are getting left out because they don't fit in.
This topic was one of the things that got me thinking, especially when I saw the video's online of people having a flipping hoedown on the platform for the delegates at the recent international convention in the USA. It really threw me and I thought well why is this acceptable now when I know for a fact it was extremely frowned open to even let your child climb up on the platform after the meeting (well it is here in the UK anyway, people were always getting told off for not controlling their kids better lol.) Talk about a complete Uturn!
I really detest this religion sorry I mean cult! The more I find out the more I can't believe I was part of it for so long.
out of the blue, my wife told me that after this week's service meeting on friday (co visit) she is not going to anymore meetings during the week at night.
only sunday (am) meetings.
she explained that it is difficult and not safe for her to drive after dark (vision issues: i have the same problem so i couldn't help her if i wanted to).
Yes def do something and spend some really nice, quality time together. Spoil her - I know that always works with me :) (sorry no good at suggesting things!)
Also do you have a telephone link or Skype link up to the meeting? Our local hall does so you want to make sure she is otherwise occupied so it wont even cross her mind to listen in to the meeting that way.
Hope all goes well for and this is just the start of something....
i just wondering how this vile term came to be used in constant referral to the org, i really, really hate it!
it's only since coming out that i have realised how much the jdubs use it.
everything is the truth this and the truth that.
Hmmm all very interesting, thank you for all the comments. It makes sense that it would relate to those scriptures. Being a born in myself I find I actually lack a lot of knowledge on most things JW related. I just coasted along and never really researched or looked into much which I now find highly embarrasing and am quite ashamed by, but think it must explain how I managed to stay in so long.....
Juan Viejo2 I was very interested to read your comment and it's a good point you made about them being members of the "Christian Congregation of JWs" and not actually declaring themselves to be an actual individual Christian.
OneEyedJoe It is just such an arrogant thing to say. I hadn't realised or thought about it being used by other cults but it makes sense.
As I have never had the pleasure (hah) of conducting a study I wonder if it gets refered to as the truth when your bringing a person in? If it was me studying I think I would find that most offputting, arrogant and offensive.
i just wondering how this vile term came to be used in constant referral to the org, i really, really hate it!
it's only since coming out that i have realised how much the jdubs use it.
everything is the truth this and the truth that.
I just wondering how this vile term came to be used in constant referral to the org, I really, really hate it! It's only since coming out that I have realised how much the Jdubs use it. Everything is the truth this and the truth that. When talking to my JW friend earlier this week I accidentally called it that as she was having a preaching session at me and I had to correct myself. I felt dirty afterwards!
Has it always been used for as long as you can remember? It's so culty (if thats a word?!)
hi everyone!
today i was reminded that just because both of us left the wtbt$ we are not always on the same page.. .
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For us we really started off in different places. I was fed up for years and we would have conversations where I would lay down all my issue's with the religion but he, though open to discussion still really believed in it. Then one day this year he came across the NGO crap and that led him down a very intense period of reading and research, something that I had never bothered with as I never felt the need to. He got very angry and kept telling me all these things that he had found out and for some reason that scared me I guess my inner cultist came out!
We had lots of arguments about it and how I felt he should just stop looking at things and leave it alone. At this point we were both going through the motions with the meetings etc and it wasn't until the convention that I said we should just leave and never go back, he agreed and that's exactly what we have done! I think I just couldn't believe how much was really wrong with the organisation I was bought up in, even though I had my issue's they were mainly to do with family experiences within the org.
Now we are both really interested in what's going on and keeping up with things and I think that's mainly as it just confirm's and reassures us that we have made the right decission. Plus it can be used as ammo if needed when relatives bring these things up! I feel that he is definately more angry than me about wasting his life etc. I just think well that's what we chose at the time, we didn't have all the facts and our life wasn't awful. But I understand why he would feel that way.
i read through the suggestion box and haven't seen anyone recomend this yet: is it possilbe to add a "like" button for posts and comments?
maybe something that keeps count of them like on youtube.
i think it would be a great tool to let people know we appreciate their comments.. i know we have the thumbs up icon we can paste in our comments but its hard to "like" someones elses comment when the thread is already 30 comments deep.. (feel free to thumbs up if this is a feature you'd like to see).
Sounds good!
...apart from door knocking, meetings and kingdom melodies?.
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Who is Andre?
