Posts by OrphanCrow

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

OrphanCrow

WitnessMy Fury: An externally forced shut down would be sweeping and complete i would have thought, including the dumbass new headquarters.
I still think it's about money.

Of course it is about money.

Do you remember when the WTS was stopped from completing a proposed sale when Candace Conti's payout was still in the air? A full shut down isn't necessary - but a partial shutdown makes sense.

I think the WTS owes money somewhere - maybe a big demand note or something like that. Something came due that they couldn't/wouldn't pay.

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

OrphanCrow

Morpheus: Forced... By who? For what reason? No one government can force a coporation to shut down world wide.

As I said...it is speculation.

By who? Probably by the IRS.

"No one government"... maybe not. But, all it would take is for the government where the WTS has their world heaquarters. Even if they are located world-wide, the WTS still has a home base.

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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!

by Slidin Fast in

the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.

the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.

my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.

OrphanCrow

I have spent the past couple days thinking...and speculating.

This is my speculative conclusion (one of them...lol...I have overlapping theories),

The WTS was court ordered to shut down extraneous building projects. The shutdown is too sweeping to be a headquarter planned move. It appears to be an anticipated move but not a voluntary one.

As stupid as we would like to think that the "powers who be" are in the Tower, I don't think that it is as simple as "they ran out of money". I think it is quite possible that the WTS has been forced, through court action of some kind, to stop the outflow of money into wasteful building projects.

I believe that time will tell, but it won't surprise me if this was a forced shutdown. A forced shutdown that the WTS knew was coming.

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Removed from JW.ORG: Warwick Photo Gallery 3 (January Through April 2015)

by wifibandit in

the warwick gallery #1 and gallery #2 are still up.. i have #3 backed up: http://imgur.com/a/klnlg.

also pulled: .

wallkill photo gallery 2.

OrphanCrow

Thanks for posting those photos Wifi.

I can't wait to show my father the photos. I know he will go though the roof. A construction project that big being done with volunteer labour will make him crazy. The building code violations must be astronomical.

The logistical nightmare of trying to manage a volunteer group of that size would be enough to give even the most seasoned construction site supervisor permanent heart palpitations. My father would lose his mind whenever he had to train a unexperienced crew for a jobsite - and that was just for little projects like hospitals and schools - not some monstrosity like the Warwick project.

It is one thing to slam a Kingdom Hall build in a weekend with people who don't know how to hold a hammer properly but it would quite another undertaking to consider taking on a project of that size with people who want to dress up in safety gear and pose for photos.

Unbelievable. And frankly, quite insane.

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Hemoglobin Infusion??

by Vetro in

i just got the new document about blood fractions from the wt, they will allow you to choose hemoglobin, but apparently not packed red blood cells, but in the medical journal i see nothing about hemoglobin infusions, is this even possible or just more bullshit from the wt?

OrphanCrow

LeeElder: We have some additional information towards the end of the article:
http://ajwrb.org/science/watchtower-approves-hemopure

Thank you. This is what I found at the end of the article:

Biopure, the company that produced Hemopure, had a very colorful history that eventually led to prison time for Howard Richman (SEC violations) and eventually bankruptcy in 2009 with its assets purchased by OPK Biotech. At the time of the most recent update of this article in 2014, Clinical Trials of Hemopure continued to be in progress.2

OPK Biotech is now bankrupt.

Who is manufacturing Hemopure? Where is the Hemopure coming from for those clinical trials? Is Hemopure even available?

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Hemoglobin Infusion??

by Vetro in

i just got the new document about blood fractions from the wt, they will allow you to choose hemoglobin, but apparently not packed red blood cells, but in the medical journal i see nothing about hemoglobin infusions, is this even possible or just more bullshit from the wt?

OrphanCrow

Well...I'll be damned.

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=61346883

OPK Biotech, LLC was incorporated in 2009 and is based in Delaware. On April 25, 2014, an involuntary petition for liquidation under Chapter 7 was filed against OPK Biotech, LLC in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District of Massachusetts. On May 20, 2014, the involuntary petition was approved by the Court.

Biopure was bought out by Opk Biotech (Russia based...) and now Biotech is bankrupt.

Who is manfacturing Hemopure? The cow bovine dervied blood substirute that the WTS approved for their guinea pigs?

Huh...it soesn't seem like that option is open to JWs anymore.

Who is manufacturing Hemopure now? Is it available at all?

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Hemoglobin Infusion??

by Vetro in

i just got the new document about blood fractions from the wt, they will allow you to choose hemoglobin, but apparently not packed red blood cells, but in the medical journal i see nothing about hemoglobin infusions, is this even possible or just more bullshit from the wt?

OrphanCrow

Vetro: Hemopure doesn't exist anymore, the company has gone udner, I tried calling them, nothing but a busy signal.

Hemopure, Biopure, Opk Biotech...

Yeah. Funny how all those companies are all of a sudden almost invisible, isn't it?

Hmmmm....what the heck happened to those artifical blood companies and their investors? I wonder who invested in artifical blood...do ya think it maybe was a certain corporation who promoted it...???? Hmmm....

*oh my...the Biotech website is gone...that vibrant company that had such a grand website not so long ago...what the heck is going on in the artifical blood world??

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Need Help with Blood Transfusion Illustration

by Dissonant15 in

please, who can provide an intelligent rebuttal to the following illustration?

i always thought it was bullet-proof:.

"if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

OrphanCrow

TS: If the story is true, (Which I doubt) Lapin would not be the first person to be tripped up by the fallacy of equivocation.

You should doubt the story. It was written as a promotional book.

The analogy falls apart when you examine where the directive came from. In the first case (blood), the directive came from God/Bible. In the case of alcohol, the directive came from a doctor. A doctor does not equal God. (unless you are a narcisstic asshole like Lapin).

Also, the alcohol "will kill him" because the person had already overused alcohol. With blood, the patient had not created an internal environment that would result in death by taking it in - it was only a belief in death that the patient faced with the Bible directive, not an actuality.

Belief cannot be equated to knowledge. Belief is not necessary when knowledge exists.

The alcohol/blood analogy does not equate "like with like" - it puts knowledge up against belief...an apples and oranges argument.

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The bridge burning has begun.

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

i was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....

i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..

so i texted her back immediately with fu..

OrphanCrow

"She had her freedom, and it was empty. The moment was not the highest of her life, but the lowest and most desolate, which was altogether excellent, for instead of slipping downward she began to climb."

- Sinclair Lewis (Main Street, 1920)

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Old is Becoming New Again?

by Tazemanian-devil in

is it just me, or does it seem like jw.org is returning to some very old methods from rutherford's era?.

- their carts / booths is very reminiscent of the sandwich board system, including the fact that they no longer personally engage.

- showing videos via the tablet / smartphone is almost exactly like the phonograph method they used.

OrphanCrow

Another way in which the old Rutherford era is being replayed.

The baptism of children. In Rutherford's day, very young children were baptized - 5/6 years old and up. The WTS needed the children to bolster their stance in court. The children were used to challenge the constitution.

Also, in Rutherford's day, the WTS used a radio channel to broadcast. Today they have jw.borg.

One thing that hasn't changed and it looks like it never will:

The organization is still, and always will be, a patriarchal institution that treats women like shit.