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  This is for all JW's out there...

  by Divergent in

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  sorry to be so blunt, but you only have yourself to blame if you realize something is wrong but allow your cognitive dissonance to kick in.

  if you are confronted with facts which are reported by reliable sources which are hard to dispute and deny, and you choose to dismiss these as "apostate lies" rather than looking at these from an objective point of view, it's your fault and you deserve the consequences of willful ignorance!.

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  Divergent: Sorry to be so blunt, but you only have yourself to blame if you realize something is wrong butallow your cognitive dissonance to kick in. If you are confronted with facts which are reported by reliable sources which are hard to dispute and deny, and you choose to dismiss these as "apostate lies" rather than looking at these from an objective point of view, it's your fault and you deserve the consequences of willful ignorance!

  Sorry to be so blunt, Divergent, but YOU are part of the problem.

  Adopting a "blame the victim" attitude is not going to help anybody but yourself. Your post reveals that you have no understanding of the factors that are at play in 1.) a cult and 2.) an abusive relationship.

  If you are interested in expanding your knowledge base, it would be good for you to spend some time researching the power dynamics in both 1.) cults and 2.)abusive relationships. I would suggest that you start with investigating the "Stockholm Syndrome".

  Developing a critical mind is one thing, but being critical from ignorance is quite another, Divergent. You need to apply your own advice to youself. Educate yourself. Ignorance is unattractive.
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  AUSTRALIA – Artemis Legal launches inquiry into group and class action lawsuits against Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by jwleaks in

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  jehovah's witnesses - group action lawyers fighting for justice | artemis legal .

  artemis legal | watchtower claims.

  13 october 2015 .

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  Simon: The remit of the RC as I understand it is not to seek justice or compensation on behalf of the victims is it?

  You need to read up on the redress scheme. That is the compensation for the victims that is being addressed by the RC.

  The Royal Commission is also giving assistance and support to the victims in their search for justice through the civil courts.

  Have you not been following this, Simon???
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  The Iron Fist in the Velvet Glove

  by Lee Elder in

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  2. medical

  the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses are fond of saying there are no automatic sanctions for taking blood.

  that they no longer disfellowship someone who takes blood.

  that they have a "free choice" in the matter.

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  Mad Irishman: I didn't take blood because I thought that was the right thing to do. No one put a gun to my head.

  Last words of Jonestown follower: "I am going to drink it because I think it is the right thing to do. Nobody is putting a gun to my head."

  You are right, MadIrishman. Nobody put a gun to your head. The WTS put a gun inside your head. And told you to pull the trigger.
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  The Iron Fist in the Velvet Glove

  by Lee Elder in

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  2. medical

  the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses are fond of saying there are no automatic sanctions for taking blood.

  that they no longer disfellowship someone who takes blood.

  that they have a "free choice" in the matter.

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  Onthewayout: No disfellowshipping action from the organization, but an individual action that caused them to simply fill out a form.

  Exactly. "No disfellowshipping action".

  No judicial commitee required. Taking a blood transfusion is an automatic offense. The offender doesn't even get the option of going through a process to determine sin. The sin of taking a blood transfusion is pre-determined.

  A speedy divorce...Reno style...just sign on the dotted line. It's sort of like a "Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect 200 dollars" - go straight to being shunned.

  No trial, no judical process....just get the fuck out.

  Is there any other WT "sin" that is allows for such a speedy process?
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  Kara- An ethical dilemma that's closer than you may be thinking

  by fulltimestudent in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w7we1op7d4

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  Simon: There is no feeling other than the feeling it's been programmed to imitate.

  You just described some 'humans' I have ran into.
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  Australian Legal firm to take on class action lawsuits against JW's

  by sherrie11 in

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  artemis legal offers litigation church abuse and immigration services.

  artemis legal has launched an inquiry into group or class action against the jehovahs witness in australia.

  this follows criticism by the australian royal commission into the institutional responses to child sexual abuse that revealed flaws in the deeply secretive religions attitude to dealing with child abuse and in response to a spike in recent enquiries to the sydney based law firm.. http://www.artemislegal.com.au/jehovahwitness/ .

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5212164105175040/australia-artemis-legal-launches-inquiry-into-group-class-action-lawsuits-against-jehovahs-witnesses
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  Intersting Visit from our local JWs yesturday

  by little_Socrates in

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  way to early on a saturday morning we got a ring on our doorbell.

  someone else answered the door.

  after they left i walked by our entry way and gagged from the smell!

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  I agree with you, Little_Socrates. Scent can have dire consequences for some people.

  I realize that people are defensive about ensuring that their personal boundaries extend far beyond their bodily space with their fragrance, but...it can be rude to wear fragrance in some environments.

  And no, I don't think it is the responsibility of homeowners to have signs plastered on their doors warning people that someone inside that personal space may have issues with some scents. People are entitled to their privacy about such matters. It isn't the public's business. But, it is the business of people who make it their profession to go door to door to exhibit a sensitive attitude to whoever may be behind the doors they knock on.

  And that is where the JWs are rude. They aren't just going to the grocery store and wandering around. They are deliberately and knowingly entering into other people's personal spaces.

  It is a no brainer. Don't wear scent when you are going door to door. Simple.
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  Disaster Kit

  by vinman in

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  i was at walmart when i seen a disaster survival kit.

  then something came to my mind.

  remember all the instructions given about having these kits?

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  JeffT: Funny. I was only in from 1973 to 1988, but I seem to remember being told that such things showed a like of faith that Jehovah would take care of his people.

  Yes, I remember that. I left in '71 but I remember my mom and dad being mocking of those who built bomb shelters and such in the post WW2 years. The JWs of that time were of the mind that "Jehovah would save them" and that they wouldn't need such foolishness.

  Ha! Little did they know that Judge Rutherford's Beth Sarim had an elaborate bomb shelter. He didn't trust Jehovah to miraculously save him either. I wonder where the GB's bomb shelter is now that Beth Sarim is long gone.
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  One of my JW friends posted this on Facebook. Totally cringeworthy!

  by Divergent in

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  GreatTeacher: Thanks, Lisa Rose. I believe it. I guess I need to review what codependency is. Is it a need to be associated with something because it provides some benefits that meet their needs even though there are negative consequences?

  Sorry, don't mean to butt in here...LisaRose's post is excellent.

  Just wanted to add that the negative consequences are what reinforce the misguided beliefs. The more negative the consequences (persectution and blood sacrifice), the more the adherent pereceives that they are right and everybody else is wrong.
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  Removed from JW.ORG: Warwick Photo Gallery 3 (January Through April 2015)

  by wifibandit in

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  the warwick gallery #1 and gallery #2 are still up.. i have #3 backed up: http://imgur.com/a/klnlg.

  also pulled: .

  wallkill photo gallery 2.

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  GodZoo: You need to get out more. Let me show you what real plain Jane looks like.. wheremissionaries live.

  Sorry, I was making my assessment based on the culture that the "digs" are located within.

  The missionary digs do not come from the same cultural surroundings.