OrphanCrow
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School Shooting in Canada
by adjusted knowledge inhttp://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35388594
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Dances With Watchtowers - Witnessing to Native Americans
by Clam ini've had a life long fascination with native americans, starting of course as a kid who watched westerns, and then learning of about their true culture and spirituality.
i have often wondered how jws in other countries, particularly the us, would interact with the indigenous people of their country.
do any americans here have any stories about witnessing to native americans?
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OrphanCrow
Just gotta say...this is the best title thread ever.
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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FormerBrother: There is no debate at all about this, NOBODY comes even close to the translation numbers of th JWs presently.
In the past of course they did, JWs are only around 100 years old.
But today, its not even close, the translation work of the JWs is like comparing Rolls Royce with Form when comparing JWs to Catholics or Anglicans, or any other religion who translates Bible literature.Of course there is no debate. The numbers tell the story.
The Bible Societies have 542 translations of the Bible in circulation (not including digital).
The JWs have "over 120" translations of the Bible. (...and still no Spanish translation of the Silver Sword..???)
For some global figures and other interesting things...
The JWs can't hold a candle to these numbers:
The Digital Bible Library® (DBL) is central to our strategy to make the Bible as widely and easily accessible as possible. In 2014 it passed a significant milestone and ended the year with 1,014 Bibles, Testaments and portions in 816 languages. These languages are spoken by over 4 billion people.
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Whatever happened to the Lopez case?
by StarTrekAngel inwas it settled?
is it still pending further appeal?
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OrphanCrow
Eh...I think I am wrong...the oral arguments were for the appeal. It is possible that the appeal process is finished.
Maybe, there is only the final decision on the appeal that remains.
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Whatever happened to the Lopez case?
by StarTrekAngel inwas it settled?
is it still pending further appeal?
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truthseekeriam: Looks like Feb 11, 2016 is the day for the oral argument.
No, the appellant's request to continue oral argument has been denied. It appears like the appeal hearing is going ahead, not oral arguments.
01/14/2016
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Yeah...and not only that...this forum will not be accessible either!
Damn. What shall we do on those days? Oh, what shall we do??? Maybe Simon can fix that...
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How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?
by stuckinarut2 init's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".
"is he 'in the truth'?".
most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.
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OrphanCrow
steve2: BTW, at least one other religious group refers to their teachings and organization as being "the truth": Exclusive Brethren.
Hmmm, JWs aren't so unique after all.And then there are the "Two by Twos" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_by_Twos :
Two by Twos is one of the names used to denote an international, home-based church that has its origins in Ireland at the end of the 19th century. Among members, the church is typically referred to as "The Truth" or "The Way".
...and more about "the truth": http://2x2ministry.org
Heh...there was an elderly couple who would attend the Kingdom Hall when I was a kid - they were "Two by Twos". They said that the JWs were the closest to what they believed. Lol! She used to show up for meetings with a chihuahua in her handbag - he was all old and grey and he would snap at any kids who tried to pet him.
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blood guilty
by atomant inlt is said that jdubs are blood guilty for not allowing blood transfusions.l wonder how many shunned witnesses or disfellowshipped witnesses have committed suicide because of this practice.ls that also an act of being blood guilty?
just saying.
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Atomat: l wonder how many shunned witnesses or disfellowshipped witnesses have committed suicide because of this ...
I think the number would be fairly high. The blood propaganda that the WTS puts out to the JWs has far reaching consequences.
Many, many exJWs still are held captive by the WT's erroneous 'medical' advice. Many are still terrified of blood and view blood transfusions as risky, dirty and not necessary. The very same people who come to the realization that the WT lies about doctrine and almost everything else, will still cling to the "blood truth". When...there isn't any blood truth that comes out of the WTS.
The WTS has successfully terrified people about the medical consequences of blood transfusions and yet those same fears have no basis in rational thinking. The WTS tries to tell people that they risk all sorts of things from taking blood...but the rational weighing out of the risks still leaves refusing blood as the least desirable option.
Think of it this way - some people cannot take penicillin, they are allergic to it. But, that doesn't mean that penicillin isn't an option for everyone else - it just means that there are risks involved in taking it. Same as blood - some people will end up with a hemolytic reaction but almost all the people who have a transfusion won't have any complications. The WTS has taken the normal risks associated with a medical procedure and has vilified all blood transfusions because of the "risks" involved. And yet...the WTS says NOTHING about the risks involved in the alternative procedures that they promote. Nothing. Nothing at all about the risks associated with taking the drug cocktails that claim to 'build up the blood' before surgery. Nothing at all about the risks of having all your blood drained out of your body and replaced with synthetic fluid. Nothing at all about how artificial blood is riskier than blood itself. And on and on...
Unfortunately, there are many exJWs who still hold onto the bad medical advice that they have been given - they will throw the WT literature into the garbage....and hold onto the noblood doctrine. Why? Because they think that the WTS is medically right about blood - not right about their Biblical doctrine. But, somehow, magically, they still believe that the blood propaganda is true.
So, yes, the blood guilt goes beyond the boundaries of active JWs - it extends its evil arm around anyone who has been exposed to the WT's noblood propaganda.
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OrphanCrow
fts: Seems lots of younger people report that the love living in China.
Yes, my son lives in China. He loves it.
"Mom, China is supposed to be one of the countries with the least freedom, yet I feel more free here than anywhere else I have been."
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BOE 2016-01-15 Re: New Feature on jw.org for Processing Recommendations of Elders and Ministerial Servants
by wifibandit inboe 2016-01-15 re: new feature on jw.org for processing recommendations of elders and ministerial servants.
pdf.
thanks ich3b!.
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sir82: I suspect that they run his name through their database of child molesters to see if his appointment might cause legal issues down the road.
But...but...the WTS doesn't have the ability to do that, do they? At least....according to what they told the court, they can't separate out the pedophiles from the database - that would takes months...maybe years! And the WT wouldn't lie about something like that, would they?
Database of pedophiles? Nope...the WT doesn't have THAT. Nope...can't be done...that would take waaaay too long. Just ask the judge. The WT doesn't lie.
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