Posts by OrphanCrow

For one thing, I started reading at a really young age and I would use a dictionary a lot. I found out the meaning of the word "hypocrite" and when I looked around me at the KH, that is what I saw. What I saw was not what I was told it was.

And Armageddon was coming in four years - it was 1971 and I figured I had a LOT of living to get in before Jehovah killed me in 1975 for not wanting to hang out with those horribly hypocritical people I knew from the KH. I decided I would rather die at Armageddon than be a JW

It would take many years more before I was able to de-program. I bought James Penton's book in 1987 and that is when I finally realized that I might live a little longer than what the WT had told me I would

16

Hooray! Bound volumes in the trash!

by stillin in

my wife has held onto them like they were family heirlooms.

we are cleaning and clearing out accumulated stuff and i pointed out that there is the cd-rom library now and that the society has made revisions and really doesn't want us to be reading the old stuff.

she said that even though there have been changes to the teachings, the wrong understanding served its' purpose at the time.

OrphanCrow

stanlivedeath: when i cleared my late fathers house--i dumped over 50 years worth of magazines. i found them all over his house...

I think this is common. My granny was the same - she would faithfully receive (and pay for) her monthly "magazine placement" for years past the time when she was capable of going door to door to get rid of them

I have often wondered what happened to all those millions and billions of "the world's most distributed magazine" and I think that most of those magazines simply ended up being accumulated in closets, basements, garages of JWs. Sort of like those people who sign up for MLMs (Amway, etc) and all they get out of it is a lifetime supply of soap products that nobody will take off their hands for them

That and maybe the literature ends up here too:

3

JW teen mother - San Diego 1960 - grandchild is looking for family of origin

by OrphanCrow in

jw
friends

http://www.gsadoptionregistry.com/california/19601964california.html.

this listing doesn't say if any contact has ever been made or if this person's search was successful.. i have a particular affinity to those who search for their families of origin.

i was 5 years old when i was told that my mother had been adopted and it took me until i was 40 to find out who my "real" grandmother was.

OrphanCrow

One more.

Adoptee Birth Date: 7-1-1964
Adoptee Gender: Male
Adoptee Birth Race: African American
Name given to Adoptee by Birth Parents: Anthony
Adoptee Birth City: Detroit, MI
Adoptee Birth County: Wayne County
Adoptee Birth State: Michigan
Adoptee Birth Country: USA
Adoptee Birth Mothers Name: ?
Adoptee Birth Mothers Maiden Name: ?
Adoptee Birth Mothers Race: African American
Adoptee Birth Fathers Name: ?
Adoptee Birth Fathers Race: African American
Adoptee Birth Hospital: ?
Adoption Agency or Attorney: ?
Age of Adoptee when Adopted: 3 years old
Name given to Adoptee by Adoptive Parents: Anthony Andrews
City adoption took place: Detroit, MI
County adoption took place: Wayne County
State adoption took place: Michigan
Country Adoption took place: USA
Adoptive Mothers Name: Lois Andrews
Adoptive Mothers Maiden Name: Alge
Adoptive Fathers Name: James David Andrews
Email Address: [email protected]
Searching For: Birth Parents, Birth Family, Medical History.
All Other Information: I am paralyzed from the neck down. Need Medical History. My grandfather on birth mothers side was a preacher. birth mother was a jehovah witness. Birth Uncle worked at GM. and Aunt was a nurse. have a older brother who was in a nursing home.
Date Received: 1-16-2011
Date Posted: 1-16-2011
Last Updated: 1-16-2011

3

JW teen mother - San Diego 1960 - grandchild is looking for family of origin

by OrphanCrow in

jw
friends

http://www.gsadoptionregistry.com/california/19601964california.html.

this listing doesn't say if any contact has ever been made or if this person's search was successful.. i have a particular affinity to those who search for their families of origin.

i was 5 years old when i was told that my mother had been adopted and it took me until i was 40 to find out who my "real" grandmother was.

OrphanCrow

Another one. Ohio.

http://www.gsadoptionregistry.com/ohio/19701979ohio.html

This is a woman looking for her biological father who was a Jehovah's Witness:

Adoptee Birth Date: 11-5-1971
Adoptee Gender: Female
Adoptee Birth Race: Caucasian, German decent ?
Name given to Adoptee by Birth Parents: Annette Marie Haren
Adoptee Birth City: Cleveland, OH
Adoptee Birth County: Cuyahoga County
Adoptee Birth State: Ohio
Adoptee Birth Country: USA
Adoptee Birth Mothers Name: Eileen A. Foltz ((FOUND)) (Deceased)
Adoptee Birth Mothers Maiden Name: Eileen Agnes Haren
Adoptee Birth Mothers Race: Caucasian, German decent
Adoptee Birth Fathers Name: ?
Adoptee Birth Fathers Race: Caucasian, German, French, Irish decent ?
Adoptee Birth Hospital: St. Ann's Hospital
Adoption Agency or Attorney: Catholic Woman's League
Age of Adoptee when Adopted: 6 weeks old
Name given to Adoptee by Adoptive Parents: Christa Noel Fornsaglio
City adoption took place: Canton, OH
County adoption took place: Stark County
State adoption took place: Ohio
Country Adoption took place: USA
Adoptive Mothers Name: Donna Fornsaglio
Adoptive Mothers Maiden Name: DeSantis
Adoptive Fathers Name: Samuel Anthony Fornsaglio
Email Address: [email protected]
Searching For: Birth Father, Medical History.
All Other Information: (Update) Birth mother's date of birth: 7-6-1929 birth mother has 10 siblings, and is of German decent. Birth father was born approximately ?-?-1926, has 4 siblings, and is supposed to be of German, French, and Irish decent. Caseworker: Mrs. Barbara Rosenfield Judge Reuben Z. Wise. I was placed in Catholic Community League Foster Home on 11-8-1971. I was delivered by Dr. Mason. (Update) Birth mother was 5'3 1/2" tall, hazel eyes, wavy medium brown hair, fair to medium complexion. Looks like she graduated from high school in 1947. One of my birth mother's sister's was valedictorian of her class. Birth father was 6'1" tall, dark brown eyes, dark brown hair, medium-dark complexion, Protestant. His parents were from West Virginia and Jehovah Witnesses. (Update) My birth mother's family is German. My birth mother died on 1-28-2013. I met my biological aunts a year ago.
Date Received: 3-14-2008
Date Posted: 3-27-2008
Last Updated: 10-9-2017 & 8-22-2017 & 10-18-2011 & 3-27-2008

3

JW teen mother - San Diego 1960 - grandchild is looking for family of origin

by OrphanCrow in

jw
friends

http://www.gsadoptionregistry.com/california/19601964california.html.

this listing doesn't say if any contact has ever been made or if this person's search was successful.. i have a particular affinity to those who search for their families of origin.

i was 5 years old when i was told that my mother had been adopted and it took me until i was 40 to find out who my "real" grandmother was.

OrphanCrow

http://www.gsadoptionregistry.com/california/19601964california.html

This listing doesn't say if any contact has ever been made or if this person's search was successful.

I have a particular affinity to those who search for their families of origin. I was 5 years old when I was told that my mother had been adopted and it took me until I was 40 to find out who my "real" grandmother was. I was obsessed with finding out who my ancestors were. I never stopped looking until I found them

Here is the listing that I found concerning a 17 year old JW girl who gave birth in San Diego back in 1960. Maybe the names and/or circumstances will provoke someone to help this person find their family:

Adoptee Birth Date: 2-23-1960
Adoptee Gender: Male
Adoptee Birth Race: White
Name given to Adoptee by Birth Parents: ?
Adoptee Birth City: San Diego, CA
Adoptee Birth County: San Diego County
Adoptee Birth State: California
Adoptee Birth Country: USA
Adoptee Birth Mothers Name: ?
Adoptee Birth Mothers Maiden Name: (On File)
Adoptee Birth Mothers Race: White
Adoptee Birth Fathers Name: ?
Adoptee Birth Fathers Race: White
Adoptee Birth Hospital: Doctor's Hospital
Adoption Agency or Attorney: ?
Age of Adoptee when Adopted: Given up at birth
Name given to Adoptee by Adoptive Parents: Marc Franklin Clements (Deceased)
City adoption took place: San Diego, CA
County adoption took place: San Diego County
State adoption took place: California
Country Adoption took place: USA
Adoptive Mothers Name: Gloria Clements or Gloria Hogue (This may be misspelled on birth certificate as "Hugue"?)
Adoptive Mothers Maiden Name: Hogue (This may be misspelled on birth certificate as "Hugue"?)
Adoptive Fathers Name: Wallace Clements
Email Address: [email protected]
Searching For: My Father's Birth Parents, Any Birth Family Members, Medical History.
All Other Information: My father was born in San Diego at Doctor's Hospital Point Loma, which no longer exists. This was a closed adoption that took place at the time of his birth. I believe his birth mother was 17 years old and is possibly of Swedish, Norwegian and / or French descent. She was described as looking just like my father (blue eyes and blonde hair). I believe that her mother may have been a member of the Jehovah's Witness Church of San Diego. His birth father may have been 18-22 years old ? at the time of my father's birth. He may have been at university in the area--he was "sent away" to school when my father was born. I believe his father was a well-known neurologist or cardiologist practicing in the San Diego area. They may have been German, or of German descent. (Update) My father Marc was 6'2" tall, with blue eyes and blond hair. He weighed between 175-180 lbs.
Date Received: 3-29-2015
Date Posted: 3-30-2015
Last Updated: 9-5-2015 & 4-9-2015 & 3-31-2015

9

If your cat catches a mouse, . . .

by compound complex in

take it away, bleed it, give it back.. reading about the gingerbread man reminded me of this:.

how irrational the society could be was experienced by the sister-in-law of ex-bethelite william (bill) cetnar when .... at the suggestion of her veterinarian, she had a blood transfusion given to her poodle to prolong its life.

she couldn't believe bill [cetnar]when he told her that the society would say she had violated god's law.

OrphanCrow

CC: She was told that she should keep the cat under restraint and be more careful in handling it.

Well, they were sort of right about that. But they missed a good opportunity to actually present her without the correct facts that a cat eating a mouse (and it's blood) would run a risk of catching a disease or picking up a parasite.

A cat that eats mice needs regular de-worming

But, to take the position that she should restrain the cat for the purpose of obeying a dusty old biblical 'law' about human beings abstaining from animal blood is borderline lunacy. Hell, no. It is lunacy

23

A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story

by LisaRose in

https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.

when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.

there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.

OrphanCrow

xanhippie: ...despite a very vociferous poster who keeps insisting that women have an easy time of it.

Ah...it sounds like someone is proposing a pro-slavery argument based on "we treat them well and they have it so good...don't know why they are revolting"

sigh

This world will never change. Evolution has such a long way to go before we are a species of civilized beings

37

You Just Can't Make This S--t Up!

by FedUpJW in

i know this is kind of trivial but i don’t want to partake in something that might have connections with something that jehovah disapproves of.

i checked the watchtower library and i didn’t find anything on gingerbread man cookies.. .

good lord...how incredibly stupid and helpless are jdubs getting?

OrphanCrow

sparky: What do you get when you cross a gingerbread man with a Smurf?
A Jehovah's Witness' worst nightmare

37

You Just Can't Make This S--t Up!

by FedUpJW in

i know this is kind of trivial but i don’t want to partake in something that might have connections with something that jehovah disapproves of.

i checked the watchtower library and i didn’t find anything on gingerbread man cookies.. .

good lord...how incredibly stupid and helpless are jdubs getting?

OrphanCrow

sparrow: Those GB people have huuuuuuge red eyes!

Yeah

Blood

That's why JWs can't eat em