https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnseocpffq.
so according to the law department's meeting in feb 2016, russia has been studying the linguistics of the watchtower articles and discovered its brainwashing abilities!.
lol it's funny now that i'm on the russian side of this debate now, ban them all!.
Pete: These Russian JW's turned tail and ran, leaving their fellow JW's in the lurch.
The ones who left were the ones with the money to do so
And they went to warm places. From listening to the chatter on the eu forum, some of them are suntanning on a nice beach somewhere. Never mind the ones who are dreamin' California style
*you're welcome Sparrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnseocpffq.
so according to the law department's meeting in feb 2016, russia has been studying the linguistics of the watchtower articles and discovered its brainwashing abilities!.
lol it's funny now that i'm on the russian side of this debate now, ban them all!.
Pete: It's a sad commentary that no one in an audience made up of high level Bible Students and self proclaimed Bible Authorities, knew that Jesus was the second most frequently found name written in the Bible.
I had that reaction as well.
A sad commentary indeed when they claim to be "Christ"ians
Another observation that Cedars made and that I found was an ironic use of language (not sure if "ironic" is the right description)
I found it strange that Rumley was lamenting about the linguistic analysis not conforming to what the WTS/org considers "correct" and making remarks about how their literature wasn't extremist or violent, and yet he started off by using a violent image to talk about the situation. First, it was the image of a poor little ant getting run over by a big train - squished flat and obliterated. Poor little ant so violently killed. And then, he wasn't finished with making sure that his audience had a violent image firmly planted in their minds: this time it was the image of that big Russian train hurtling towards a mountain - "and we all know what happens when the train hits the mountain"
Everyone listening to Rumley's speech will leave with pictures of violence in their brains
And "they" still don't get it. Or maybe they do and they are just being assholes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnseocpffq.
so according to the law department's meeting in feb 2016, russia has been studying the linguistics of the watchtower articles and discovered its brainwashing abilities!.
lol it's funny now that i'm on the russian side of this debate now, ban them all!.
Diogenesister: Lloyd Evans picked up on that and showed the head of the legal department actually describing what linguistics study entails. He actually said that they will look at a book etc and if the language used is such that someone will be "mind controlled" by the end of it, then that is extremist literature and *that* is how they determined whether an organization is extremist; essentially whether their literature brainwashed people.
Guess what? Yup, Watchtower literature passed the mind controll test with flying colours!!! I couldn't believe it! That he actually told his jw audience this is why Russia shut Watchtower down. That was the reason. He said this type of linguistic study is unknown over here but roll on, bring it on I say if this is the result!
I watched the video
I think some things were a bit misrepresented. Rumley (sp?) introduced the Russians' linguistic analysis of the WT texts as "a new tactic" when it isn't. Not really. Not if you consider that Russian linguistic specialists submitted a report to the Moscow court back in 1999 (19 years ago)
There were several more points that the Russian experts considered in addition to whether "someone will be "mind controlled""
I have a translated copy of that 1999 report (hard to read because academic language doesn't seem to translate very well) and I can post it or make it available for anyone who is interested in knowing the gist of what the linguistic analysis entailed at that time
Here is an excerpt from that report:
Analysis of the texts of Jehovah's Witnesses identify them the following common properties. Subjects texts systematically carried out a sustained theme: humanity and every individual threatens the powerful enemy of good - Satan. It intrigues, engages people in sin, leading mankind to the death and torture, in the near future the day will come the final battle - Armageddon.
Mankind will suffer "great tribulation" - famine, pestilence, war, natural disasters, the only salvation for the people - turning to God, namely, the deity of Jehovah, who will destroy Satan and his minions, all the servants of evil, all non-members of the community, "Witnesses" and after the Armageddon survivors waiting happiness in the kingdom of Jehovah, inhabitants of the earth will be subject to equitable heavenly government;
Thus dominated by themes of the destruction of the infidels will of the people and the forces of Jehovah's Witnesses and salvation only those who 'adherence to the "Witnesses" avoid shocks, tortures and deaths. This injection creates the mood of fear, ominous tones which aggravated multiple descriptions of the human disasters in general - past, present and future.
Psychological and ideological consciousness of this motif directs the receiver to close a hypnotic stupor in front of a fatal course of events. At the same time it prepares the mind perceiving the motive to the activities in the mode of catastrophically-war, siege, destsiplinarno-organized resistance and offensive.
Emotionally dominant semantic analysis of texts proposed to form a saturated vocabulary "sad" and "dark" mood. Auto shortchanging with export psycholinguistic computer program "Baal" shows the following. 22 %. "Light" lexicon (God, faith, apostle, soul, humanity, the universe, the confidence, the true value, equity) is in the texts of the Jehovah's Witnesses to 22%. "Sad" and "dark" vocabulary (violence, corruption, destruction, suffering, persecution, dying, slavery, hunger, cold, intrigues, lies, slander) is also up to 22%, which is a critical value, builds the context of all printed materials " witnesses "as depressing, inspiring vision of the world as anti-humane system of things, forcing anxiety, fear, suspicion and bitterness.
Readability of Jehovah's Witnesses as a whole ensures the formation of their audiences: a) a sense of impotence, passively waiting for life-saving instructions, and b) willingness to nervous-inflated identification parade in the world and the people of his notorious enemies with a disposition to aggressive and embittered opposition to them.
II). The foregoing disposition differs significantly from the key embedded in the common Christian category of "fear of God." Standing out against the backdrop of these other religions, the texts of the Jehovah's Witnesses particularly exploit the motive of terror before the coming end. Fanning fear a persistent recurrence of the eschatological views (end of the world, etc.) accompanied by traditional and canonical biblical emphasis. The total abundance in the texts of quotations from authoritative sources (precedent) is giving the publications of Jehovah's Witnesses and the greatest weight at the same time removes the need for additional treatment to the primary sources.. In this regard, the distortion of the original meaning of the quoted is particularly significant. Separation quotes from their context and their significant reduction of distorting disorient the receiver to understand and religious tradition and modern reality.
Thus, life-affirming Psalm 148 appears in the publication of "The Place of the youth in God's order is" equipped "depressive-dark" insert:
We are now living under the oppression of an evil system
, one that will soon turn to dust and ashes,
All the force necessary to deal with it to us.
greetings, dreamers:.
i guess it's never going away: daytime carryovers of jw-related stuff seeping into my dreams.. the majority of these dreams take place at conventions but with really weird trappings.
last night i dreamed i arrived at the site with no books, no lunch, nothing but my car keys.
Coco, there is a theory that when you dream of vehicles, that the vehicle is a metaphor for either your life or the life of the person the vehicle is attached to.
Using that interpretation, I would say that you view the guy (representing all the JWs you don't know) as having an outdated life. Vintage. Old and outdated. Filled with baggage. Nice but no longer up to today's standards.
I am not sure about the view of your life tho...maybe it is simply that your life is classy (classic) but you also left it behind in order to attend the convention (but it is waiting for you when you leave that environment)
Happy dreams!
:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnseocpffq.
so according to the law department's meeting in feb 2016, russia has been studying the linguistics of the watchtower articles and discovered its brainwashing abilities!.
lol it's funny now that i'm on the russian side of this debate now, ban them all!.
I think Russia has a long memory
"Babylon the Great Has Fallen and God's Kingdom Rules" can still be found despite the org's attempts to stifle their history
so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
are there higher percentages of genetic illnesses found in the female population?
Actually, it is the male population that will exhibit more of certain genetic illnesses (hemophilia, for one)
The female will often be the one to carry genetic illnesses and the male will acquire it
This is because defects in the X chromosome can be overcome in the female with the other x chromosome making up for the defect. However, in the male, if they inherit an x chromosome that carries the genetic illness, they don't have another x chromosome to pick up the job and correct for the defective chromosone
Males are XY and their Y chromosome won't have the ability to overcome the x defect
its great to see new subject matter being injected into the room of late and would be good to see others contribute by opening new threads on their favorite topics.heres a few examples.9/11.
ufo's.
atom bombs are they real?
Has anyone else noticed that those who expound on conspiracy theories can't spell?
Thread title: conspiracy theorys theories
Drop the y and add "ies"
Easy peasy (grade one or grade two?)
And you want other people to take you seriously?
pfffft
Everyone said, back in the 90s, that the internet would make people smarter - dictionaries right at a person's fingertips!
yeah, right
Too lazy to use the tools that are available
USE A DICTIONARY!!!!!
And don't give me that shit that English is your second language
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
Methinks kairos has checked out of reality
He has decided to run his own show
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
Frack
this is Grade Nine science debate level
I won
I argued for a flat earth
of course I was wrong
But I won
Big deal
It didn't make me right
The earth isn't flat
I just had good arguments
Back in grade nine
years and years ago
grow up
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
Whoaaaaaa....don't bogart that joint my friend...jus' roll me another one, jus' like the other one...
Holy frack. Nah...Holy fuck
You know, a long time ago, someone proposed to me that the earth was the insane asylum of the universe. All the crazy ones get sent here
Yeah
Why did I end up here???
Why are you here? This is insanity beyond belief
Get a brain all you idiots
the EARTH IS A Ball! HURTLING THRU SPACE!!!!!
and we are the fleas on the back of it...
what is so hard to get?
It is so f**ing simple that i just don't understand all the insanity
Stop the world and let me off! Please!!!!
*happy new year all you fleas
