Posts by Gretchen956

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Does God have a name...assuming he exists?

by The wanderer in

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if god has a name is that name jehovah?

having studied the bible for many years along with.

individuals on this discussion board, often times it.

XJW Novel could get you DF'd

by apostawriter in

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hi everybody, i've written one of the first works of fiction ever published about a gay jehovah's witness...do forgive me for bending posting guideline #6, as i should probably share this with you.

if youre a jay-dub, reading tattoo this madness in could get you disfellowshipped.

you would, however, be in fine company.. .

Gretchen956

Sounds interesting but the cover is a red x.

Sherry

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just looked up my old high school in classmates.com, i saw this dude who was a couple years older than me, didn't really know him but i knew his brother (who left the org the same time i did), his dad kicked him out of the house and he lived in his car, they are sons of one of the elders (assholes) who df'd my dad.

the good son was a good little jw that did everything a jw father (elder) would want his son to do, on his bio on classmates.com he says that he is gay, ha ha ha ha.

Gretchen956

Andre, I got it, actually, I was responding to something someone else said.

Sherry

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What a Fine Witness

by Gretchen956 in

i have a co-worker that came from the same small hometown i did.

small world, we both ended up about 450 miles away from there working for the same place.

shortly after tracy started working with me i walked with her to the coffee shop on break and got to chitty chatting.

Gretchen956

This abuse was molestation. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

Sherry

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Elders son is GAY!!!

by Wordly Andre in

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

just looked up my old high school in classmates.com, i saw this dude who was a couple years older than me, didn't really know him but i knew his brother (who left the org the same time i did), his dad kicked him out of the house and he lived in his car, they are sons of one of the elders (assholes) who df'd my dad.

the good son was a good little jw that did everything a jw father (elder) would want his son to do, on his bio on classmates.com he says that he is gay, ha ha ha ha.

Gretchen956

Sadly, they both waited until they had a wife and three kids before deciding to come out.

You know I was one of those that tried to be straight. Many people here know my story already. A lot of us wanted nothing more than to be "normal" and not an abomination. Self hatred is rampant, and suicide. I hid it deep in my sub conscious, never admitting to myself there was a possiblity even with so many things that should have led me to that immediate conclusion.

But we were told if you prayed hard enough, if you filled your life with spiritual things, if you found the right man or woman, if you were patient, and lived their way, eventually in the new system god would cure you to be normal and all those "feelings" would go away.

Trouble is, that is a false scenario. For one thing, it doesn't work, and for another there is no cure. So I tried it for 15 years, with one son. That marriage finally broke up because of other reasons (namely I grew a bit tired of the abuse and the elders and my families admonition that I must be the cause of it, being the weaker vessel). But that did not deter me. I tried it again, because I was sure that if I just tried harder it would work. Well I never did get cured. But I did finally come to my senses that I was living a delusion.

So now I am a very happy (for the most part) gay woman. I am not ashamed of who I am. And by the way, I have a great relationship with my son. He tells me all the time he loves me. He is also unabashadly heterosexual, it must have been something I did in his early childhood to make him turn out that way!

I hope you will think about how hard it is on us too. We don't set out to come out "after" we have a spouse and kids. If the religion would get a clue about some simple biology we wouldn't have to try to pretend to be someone we are not, we would not have to risk losing our kids to suicide, who think it is better to die than come out of the closet. My 16 year old nephew did that about 5 years ago. We might end up just being able to lead normal lives from a much younger age.

Wouldn't that be something?

Sherry

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What a Fine Witness

by Gretchen956 in

i have a co-worker that came from the same small hometown i did.

small world, we both ended up about 450 miles away from there working for the same place.

shortly after tracy started working with me i walked with her to the coffee shop on break and got to chitty chatting.

Gretchen956

Well here's my precious opinion for what it's worth. They have an organization structured in such a way as to make this easy on the abuser. They can be accused, but unless there are two or more witnesses, their word is belived over the victim. The organization is set up to automatically take the male's word over females and kids, and they protect their own more than any thin blue line (cops).

Are they all bad? No, I would not even suggest such a thing. But I would suggest that the good ones are turning a blind eye to this. Its far easier to believe that they could not appoint a BAD elder, after all, they think they are spirit directed in that decision. So they overlook a lot, to the detriment of their congregations. At the least willful neglect, at the worst, spiritual and physical abuse.

The scary part of it is, this is never going to stop.

Sherry

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What a Fine Witness

by Gretchen956 in

i have a co-worker that came from the same small hometown i did.

small world, we both ended up about 450 miles away from there working for the same place.

shortly after tracy started working with me i walked with her to the coffee shop on break and got to chitty chatting.

Gretchen956

I have a co-worker that came from the same small hometown I did. Small world, we both ended up about 450 miles away from there working for the same place. Shortly after Tracy started working with me I walked with her to the coffee shop on break and got to chitty chatting. I said something about being from Libby Montana. She said, oh no you aren't. Not too many people from Libby.

Anyway, turns out that Tracy only knew of one Witness child when she was growing up. I don't know how old she was at the time, sounded like maybe early grade school. Her best friend was a witness, her mom was a witness, dad was not. Her best friend was molested by one of the elders there in the congregation, I'm thinking this was sometime in the 70s, since she graduated in 85. She said this child and her mother disappeared one night in the middle of the night, when mom found out, to get away from the elders there. I don't know any more of the story and Tracy said she never saw her again in her life, and she has always wondered what happened to her.

Now fast forward to this week. I'm wrapping up at work, I'm a short-timer so I'm leaving in two weeks to move out of state. Tracy and some others were going for coffee so I decided to go along. She said she was talking to some friends from northern Idaho, I'm not sure of the town, but there aren't too many, I think it may have been Bonner's Ferry or Moye Springs.. anyway, they told her of a family that lived there, dad and mom were into alcohol and drugs. One day mom died and dad decided he couldn't take care of his two kids any longer. So he gave them to a family he thought could take better care of them. You guessed it, a local elder and his wife.

Tracy said that as soon as she heard they were witnesses she guessed what came next. The new "father" started in abusing this girl, she was about 6. She endured it for the next 10 years and finally ran away when she was 16 to live with her barely of age sister somewhere in California.

Now here is a person, totally unconnected with the witnesses. Would have had no reason to think ill of the religion. But the only thing she knows about witnesses is related to child abuse.

This is a long story, I'm ranting, really, if you are still reading this thanks. I just have to say what a fine job the witnesses are doing getting jehovers name out in front of the world before the big A comes.

Sherry

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Reveal something interesting that we didn't know about you

by JH in

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ok, i'll start with myself.

i'm a nut job, hey i bet you never knew that !!!

Gretchen956

Arrowstar you go girl. I thought I was the only woman our age that was into gaming. Did I mention I'm single now? lol

Sherry

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September km- They're coming for you

by sspo in

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in sept. km under announcements, loving provision from jehovah, elders are being reminded to make the yearly visit to all those that have been df or da.. make sure you have some good coffee or a six pack for them.. treat them kindly and with respect, the gb is very much interested in all those that they kicked out.

Gretchen956

Well I outed myself to them when they came to my door right before Christmas. I never in my life went to the hall in this area but I told them to mark this down as an apostate house and do not come back. The good news is, I'm moving to another city on 9/1. The bad news is, my ex, who was never a JW, will probably get the call. I'll warn her!

Sherry

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Reveal something interesting that we didn't know about you

by JH in

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ok, i'll start with myself.

i'm a nut job, hey i bet you never knew that !!!

Gretchen956

I'm going through a "divorce" and moving to Portland, Oregon on September 1st.

Sherry