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  Why do my family still treat me like I have the "plague"?

  by booker-t in

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  when i "disassociated" myself in the early 90's i thought that finally i could go on with my life and not have to be subjuected to wt rules and regulations.

  wrong!

  my family will not let it go.

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  darkuncle29

  ...if you'd had a video camera? Priceless.

  I'm sorry for how they treat you, I wish you the best in this.
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  What kind of JW response do you think I'll get?

  by Bubbamar in

  1. social
  2. family

  in my moms last letter she stated that me, my sister and her should all just "move on" meaning put our hurts and anger behind us and work towards having better relationships.

  however, in the same letter she clarified that disfellowshipping is "discipline" and she intends to continue shunning me.

  so i wrote back asking her what "moving on" means for her.

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  darkuncle29

  I'm really sorry for you, and I wish you the best possible out come of this.

  This next is just my dyslexic $.02.: When dealing with an unreasonable--irrational mind, one must be aware that that mind has its own internal rational. No power on this planet can force her mind to change, she has to do it herself. Until she sees that her internal rational does not meet with common external rational, she is stuck.

  What I think this means? Borrowing the "Pirate Code", that you MUST infact do nothing--where she is trying to impress upon you that you MUST come back to Jehobah. You actually have many options of how you could act. Some might hurt emotionally more than others, but you can not let her JW mind limit your options.

  You could just go on and behave as if nothing has happened.

  you could shun her.

  You could keep pounding at her with JW-antibodies and vitamins (now in easily chewable tablets).

  you can likely think of many more, some simple and some not. I'm not a complete heartless bastard, i know that you love your mother. But do you love her enough to let her go for a while? To let her learn her lessons from her mistakes? I think it is important that you just take care of YOU. Your mom is doing this because she loves you, and in her own little rationale, she is right.

  I don't know why I wrote all this out, maybe for myself too.
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  !!! NORTHWESTERN APOSTATES ARE PAR-TAY-ING !!!!

  by bisous in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, *bisous* here .... i'm starting this thread for all of my party guests to post their hellos and impressions of the day!!!.

  dr. watson gets extra points for bringing the first bottle of smurf juice!!!.

  avengers, euphemism and piph, dr. watson, celtic, odrade, lostreality, kittys&horses !!!

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  Have fun ya'll

  Hurray for Boobies!
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  Who wants to do a letter writing campaign to the borg?

  by Jez in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reading the amazing information about what a cult is, got me thinking....there are thousands of ppl here, why don't we do a letter writing campaign to the society, bombarding them with letters outlining things like the cult attachment to jw's, disfellowshipping, 1914, un, anything that we would like to see admitted or changed?

  outline what changes we think would be useful and necessary.

  we could then post the letters that they send back here to let others know how they reply.

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  I agree with many of the ideas here. Like quotes said, it would be a waiste of time. banging on a brick wall with your fists is pointless. But if you use a tool, or select a crumbling spot, you make progress.

  Writing the society may not be efficient. Writing local media--nos' and a few others' idea--might be more effective.

  Shotgun:I'd be more interested in a letter writing campaign to Oprah or Doctor Phil or A National newspaper....huge audience!

  This to me has even more possibility.

  I think that all ideas have some merrit, they just need a little bit of fleshing out a-la The Art of War.

  that's just my two stones, I am just a simple cave man.
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  Where Would Americans Migrate Safely and Happily?

  by Doubtfully Yours in

  1. social
  2. current

  lots of people migrate to the united states.. is there a good country for an american to migrate?

  we've been toying with the idea of relocating outside of the u.s. for quite some time now.

  hubby and i both speak, read and write english and spanish very well, and have pretty good computer skills which would help with the job situation.. which countries would you all recommend?.

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  I am SO ready to leave here. I need a skill first. I would definetly try Canada, I like un crowded places. If I spoke spanish, I'd try Argentina, just to be way away from here. Brazil?(portugese?) Australia would be interesting. If I could afford it, I'd study acupunture/massage in China, but that is not too realistic for me.
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  Dating Advice?

  by 607?Nope in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was raised in the cult, but finally saw the light after 35 years.

  i had long been aware of errors, but was willing to keep ignoring them as long as i thought they were mistakes.

  it wasn't until i found out that many of the "mistakes" were outright lies and that the gb that we worshiped (and anyone who thinks thay are a jw and worshiping god or christ is self-delusional) were blatant liars and deceivers, that i finally quit.

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  Getting to the point (finally!) - my question is this: Is it better to date somebody who has been a JW in the past? She would certainly be able to identify with what I have been through and she would understand, at least to some extent, what effect the religion has had on me. Since I am not fully aware of those effects myself, this could be invaluable. On the other hand I see two major drawbacks. First, we are back to the limited pool (perhaps even smaller), and second and far more worrisome is the though that she could some day want to go back. Egads! I know I will never have a relapse. I am WT free, but can I be so sure of someone else?

  Choosing a never-been-a-JW seems to be the wisest course, but what will that bring that I am not thinking of? What if I don't buy her something for her birthday? It won't be because I don't love or care for her, but simply because birthday celebrations have never ever been part of my life. Will she be understanding, or think I am a hopeless clod? I am using the birthday example because it easily comes to mind, which means that I probably really would be able to remember her birthday. But what things don't come to mind? Which JW symptoms are so ingrained in me that I would hurt or offend a woman simply by being (unintentionally) inconsiderate?

  Good questions, I've thought about too. Most of my non ex-JW friends don't mind my questions or even lapse of memory for thigns like birthdays. They know not to get upset and emotionally tweaky. Trying to find a partner who can go with that flow makes me a little nervous.

  I hope that you can get with friends and people who will be understanding.
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  For My Friends

  by Corvin in

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  anyone who wishes to keep in touch with me via email, please write down my email address: [email protected].

  you will know why shortly.

  i will not state my reasons for this email addy offering you can read about it soon at www.tcorvin.com.

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  darkuncle29

  Nice layout on your site, easy on the eye to navigate through. Look forward to seeing it filled out more.
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  Were there any cliques in your congregation?

  by badboy in

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  hope i spell cliques right?.

  know what i mean?

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  In my mind a clique is an exclusive group or subgroup. When my family first moved to Washington state in the late 80's, our congregation was very open and fun. There were groups, but they tended to not be rigidly exclusive. The other congregation that shared our hall was the opposite, very controlled, clique-y, and showing signs of burn out. Over time, people from the other congregation moved over to ours, some of the better people. The human beings. but by the mid to late 90's our cong had evolved into less than what it had been, and more like the other group. I have'nt been there in over six years, but from reports from friends who still have family there, the group is pretty sad off.
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  Name a Person That You'd Love To See On This Board

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i'd love to see ray franz come on this board.

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  There are lots, but one that I wonder about is a guy whose father was a Nazi-controll-freak-elder. This poor kid was a fun little guy, very active and squirelly, just fun to hang out with. His father totally crushed his spirit. Last time I saw him, he was 21 or so, DFd, and looked pretty hagard and worn out. His older sister also had it tough, but nowhere near as bad. The elders in our hall used to joke about this elder and call him the JW pit bull. Really nice.
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  Problems with JW daughter-in-law

  by QCA1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i haven't been here in a long time so i'd like to say hi again.. i do want to share something with you if i may.

  over a period of time my grandson who is 15 has been allowed to come over and stay with us as my yougest son is his uncle who is 16 they got on so well together talking football and rapping music.he would phone my son on a regular basis,and then his mother said he could stay over sometimes.the more he stayed with us the more he opened up about what was happening to him at home,he told me he didn't want to be a jw and was always rebellious towards it this i always knew.he is only allowed out with jw friends he he is monitered whilst on his computer and when he phoned my son his mum or dad(my eldest son)were always present.so he wasn't allowed a private phone call,my grandson told me that his mum and his dad were hitting him really hard and on several occasions he wanted to leave home.. i listened intently and felt sad and disappointed that he was being treated in this way as his dad was never treated that way as a child.my eldest son married a jw girl and after a few years i saw the change in him.

  my daughter-in-law however is a control freak and she was hitting my grandson when he was a toddler as i threatened her once i would report her, not long after they moved to another area.. time went by and normality resumed.anyway,my grandson was telling me that his mother is bombarding him about armageddon and that if he dosen't conform he will die with no hope,he said nan i don't really believe that.

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  darkuncle29

  BTT