i feel that my education was stunted due to the jw belief that education is not important.
as a result i have not been able to follow my dreams, or follow the career i?m sure i was put on this earth to do.
does anyone else feel this way?
I wanted to go to University, but my parents were having none of it. They obviously thought sending me to University would lure me out of the religion. I don?t think they realised that one of the reasons I left was because they wouldn?t let me go? isn?t it ironic!!!
Frank, I must say, in that picture you (if it is you) look like Bono?
i feel that my education was stunted due to the jw belief that education is not important.
as a result i have not been able to follow my dreams, or follow the career i?m sure i was put on this earth to do.
does anyone else feel this way?
I feel that my education was stunted due to the JW belief that education is not important. As a result I have not been able to follow my dreams, or follow the career I?m sure I was put on this earth to do.
Does anyone else feel this way? And, if so, what have you done about it since leaving?
i hope someone can "enlighten" me.
my grandmother recently passed away (91 yrs old) and they are having her funeral at the kh.
i can't remember ever having to attend one when i was a kid.
I went to my Grandfathers funeral last year. It was the first time I had stepped in a KH since I left (7 years ago), so I was bricking it, but I wanted to be there for my Gramps, and to support my Nan. My Grandfather came from a massive family, and not all his brothers and sister were/are witnesses. Two of his brothers (not JWs) walked out half way through because they were disgusted that the speaker talked about Gramps for 3 minutes (literally, I timed it), and then proceeded to move on to the resurrection hope etc.
And one thing that I must share: after the service a PO came up to me, and said ?I?m not, not going to say Hello to you, so Hello?. I couldn?t believe that someone said that to me at my Grandfathers funeral. Surely it would have been better for him to shun me, like he?s supposed to than that. What was I supposed to say, Thanks for saying Hello, I?m very grateful!!! My husband was livid and marched me out of there anyway. He then called my Mum (a JW) and told her that he was disgusted by the behaviour of the Witnesses at my Grandfathers funeral. Obviously, she/they didn?t have a leg to stand on!!!
a friend of mine is getting a divorce because her husband is questioning the wts...he's sick of the cover-ups...in light of a new elder abuse case here.
she says she can't lie with someone who is going to talk against the wts..so i asked her how she could get a divorce for those reasons.
evidentally, the co came to talk to her and because she can't get govt.
My understanding of it is, and always has been, that couples can get divorced on many grounds, such as abuse (as long as they can cope with the back chatting that will follow from within the congregation), but it is only if one commits adultery that they can re-marry.
I also know that many elders and congregations have different rules? it depends on how lax your congregation and body of elders are!
hello friends... .
i was wondering if you all could help me with my disassosiation letter... i am planning on writing it tonight, and am looking for scriptures based on "love"... and how the org shows a lack thereof.
any help would be greatly appreciated... .
I?ve always thought that the main difference is CHOICE!!!
If you are DS?ed, you?ve gone against the orgs rules, been caught, or confessed and have been punished or ousted from the congregation.
If 'YOU' DA 'YOURSELF', it?s your choice! I think it sends a clear message to remaining members that you?re dissatisfied with the org!!!
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why are so many people angry at the wt society, when it is the people that decide to remain in the organisation?
mizpah : I don?t mean to be argumentative, but please explain how living a moral life means that one is following Christian principles (You?re obviously from the Western world). Buddhism, Islam and Hinduism teach morals without the need for Jesus.
I think there is no need for you to pray that I find Jesus. I?m sure if he exists, he?ll find me!
I?ll tell you one thing though, Jesus or no Jesus, we?re all going to die. Plain and simple? there is no redemption or ?savoir? that can stop that!!!
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why are so many people angry at the wt society, when it is the people that decide to remain in the organisation?
Live and learn!!!
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why are so many people angry at the wt society, when it is the people that decide to remain in the organisation?
Mizpah: I must say that I no longer follow ?Christian? principles, as I am no longer a Christian. But, I do have morals. I know my family find it very difficult because I am happy, true to myself, and honest (more honest than when I was a witness). I know in some ways it?s easier for witnesses if they think the ones that has left are unhappy, and unsatisfied, as it gives them hope that their loved ones may return. It?s quite sad really!!!
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winner of the pulitzer prize in 1974 and the culmination of a life's work,the denial of death is ernest becker's brilliant and impassioned answer to the "why"of human existence.in bold contrast to the predominant freudian school of thought,becker tackles the problem of the vital lie----man's refusal to acknowledge his own mortality.in doing so,he sheds new light on the nature of humanity and issues a call to life and its living that still resonates more than twenty years after its writing.....to read it is to know the delight inherent in the unfolding of a mind grasping at new possibilities and forming a new synthesis.. a while ago there was a post topic on the subject of "death anxiety"and this book was mentioned in that post,so,i went to barnes and nobles and found the only copy left.i am half way through it and find it distubing because if the views are correct,then all we have to look forward to is oblivion.that would certaintly be a cause for death anxiety as mentioned by another poster and the responses given.. however,there is some mention of a leap of faith in the existence of a "creator" which leaves the door open that life does go on after death.has any one else read this book,if so what are your thoughts about the subject matter,"the denial of death".. blueblades
I haven?t read the book, but my father died when I was 13 yrs. As a result I asked myself many questions about death at a very early age. Although a witness at that time, I did not gain any comfort from the witnesses? teachings, as it was all based on supposition. After many years of confusion and contemplation I did come to some concrete conclusions. When people die they do undeniable remain in three ways. Firstly, if they have children, genetically a part of them still exists (I look like my father, and I older I get, the more I notice it). Secondly, whether they be buried or cremated, something can?t become nothing, for this reason in a sense, they exist in a different form. And thirdly, a memory is a part of life, so they live on in our thoughts. I know these concepts don?t give any hope of seeing my father again physically, but to my way of thinking, he?s still with me, but in a different guise.
i received a phone call from an old non-witness friend tonight.
he's just proposed to his girlfriend and they're getting married next summer.
she is catholic; he is agnostic.
I didn?t have an acting role, but one of my friends recently got married in a church. It was really weird because although I left the religion almost 7 years ago, I had never been in a church before. It took me a long time to make the decision whether or not to go, as I have a slight aversion to all organised religion, and I thought the minute a preacher mentioned god I would have to really restrain myself not to jump up and punch him on the nose. Anyway, in the end I went. I decided that it was my friends wedding, and if that was how she wanted to do it (in a church), then it?s not for me to judge, and I certainly wouldn?t want to miss her big day. It was a lovely wedding, although I did find the ceremony extremely farcical: no one present believed in god (not even the bride), or knew the songs etc. The bottom line is, contrary to popular opinion amongst a lot of families who are still Witnesses, I can confirm that Satan does not live in a church, or at least I didn?t meet him personally while I was there. This wedding is about two of your friends making a public commitment to each other, and they would like you to be present. Tell your family, or any elder that you wish to support your friends in the vow that they are about to make to each other, and it doesn?t matter if they choose to do it on the moon. Getting caught up on the fact that the wedding is in a ?church? is totally missing the point!
Do what makes you feel most comfortable and you can?t go wrong!!!
