If the pioneers had the Holy Spirit they wouldn't need all this BS.
Exactly. Interesting how often times the publishers and sometimes others without titles display kindness and give encouragement without being explicitly told to do so by WT.
if you happen to have the outline for this years annual pioneer meeting with elders can you please copy and paste to me in reply or send me the link i'm pdf please.
thank you very much know advance!
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If the pioneers had the Holy Spirit they wouldn't need all this BS.
Exactly. Interesting how often times the publishers and sometimes others without titles display kindness and give encouragement without being explicitly told to do so by WT.
i leave you people alone for one holiday, and you go and change the whole dern place around.
i can't find anything, don't recognize anything, i'm lost... wait, i sound like my grandfather... .
why, would you look what you've done to the place.
full set: http://imgur.com/a/z4k2t.
sample:.
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first thing i noticed, a would-be elder with a suitcase-sized 'service' bag.
pretender.
but i thought:.
The first part of that was used to guilt trip parents with slacking, apathetic kids. Overall same reactions. The only people who deserve the time of day, not to mention an invitation to your home are Elders and pioneers!
Definitely a Cult.
ever notice how the "happiest people on earth" are also the most class-oriented?
the social structure in the congregation is more complex than the blueprints of a nuclear warhead, but just so that you "remember your place", see if you can find where your niche was/is:.
1. at the top of the social order of things within the congregation is of course, the presiding overseer and his family.
whatever happened to the kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures?part 1. print/download: pdfdoc.
the watchtower says on page 5 of the 1985 edition of the kit:.
there is no definite article in the greek before the word god in john 1:6, yet the wt translates it god, with a capital g!.
i think i finally tracked down the bug that was affecting ie users - you should now be able to sign in and use the site.
i've only had chance to test with ie 11 but it should work with ie 10 as well, i'm not sure about ie 9 and ie 8 or older is doubtful.. fingers crossed we get some replies from ie'ers.
note: there may still be other issues but the first and biggest hurdle is getting signed on..
Simon, What about for Opera mobile users. This site is inaccessible, there is no chance of attempting to sign in using Opera mini. Could you take a look?
THanks, BF98
hi everyone, i'm nearing the end of steven hassan's first book: combating cult mind control.
as i was on the chapter which describes 'mini interventions', i had an ah-ha moment regarding wtbs and the stance on two matters which awoken doubts in me earlier:.
college enrollment (on campus housing vs. off campus housing, etc.).
Hi everyone, I'm nearing the end of Steven Hassan's first book: Combating Cult Mind Control. As I was on the chapter which describes 'Mini Interventions', I had an Ah-HA moment regarding WTBS and the stance on two matters which awoken doubts in me earlier:
So, as I've read on the forums, and know from personal experience, a brother can be looked over for appointment or deleted as an Elder or a MS if he attends, or if his children attends college. As some of the elders on this board have pointed out, his 'Qualifications' would at least be reviewed by the BOE, and perhaps even the CO, with special interest being placed on where the student lives while attending and how active the 'publisher' is while attending. The entire purpose: restrict and discourage dubs from getting away from the group long enough to revert to thinking in reality. Prevent them from ever learning the real meaning of: research, study, or critical thinking, and exercise damage control to monitor the student for signs of waking up, loosing zeal, and leaving this cult. If the student is, or is linked to an appointed man....REMOVE THE APPOINTED MAN to show that getting a real education is not acceptable dub. behavior, and will not be tolerated!
Also, I've always wondered why the public cart witnessing was always limited to the 'elite' pioneers and those specially selected by a committee which could at times include the CO. As I was reading Hassan's work, it became obvious that many of the 'mini interventions' he has with members from other groups would not work as effectively with the elite pioneers at the carts. These elites are very active in recruitment, sometimes power-hungry, die-hards who have so much work tied into proclaiming the message of this cult that they will quickly shutdown anyone who makes them feel uncomfortable. I have come to the conclusion, at least at the moment, that the organization, and cults in general exhibit mind control out of necessity as much as for the feeling of power. If they loosen-up and allow people to think for, and control themselves they would loose membership as people see through their bologna.
These are just some of my ah-ha moments. Have anyone else had these since learning TTATT? Please share!
well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.
the 2015 school setup, discussed this week eliminates the last "school talk" by brothers in favour of 'demonstartions" (a la sisters conversations) of family worship sessions and the like.. is this not a shift away from encouraging bright young ones to hone their (under-estimated) speaker skills ---to.
now using more of the die-hard, org-bound, --even elders in indoctrination demonstrations?.
do you see this trend?
Get away from reading scripture. Get closer to reading 'spiritual junk food'