Thanks MR MOE 2,
I've bookmarked it.
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What is going ON?
by Aintthatcute infirst of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
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Silent Lambs, Silent Overseers?
by Aintthatcute ini have read a great deal from the silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
it would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "publisher alleged child abuser"!
even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it.
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I have read a great deal from the Silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
It would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the Elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "Publisher Alleged Child Abuser"! Even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it. At least, they have the ability to protect their children. This just burns me up!
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Battered Lambs Webpage (new)
by silentlambs inafter reviewing the society's vapid interest in helping battered women and seeing the many sad stories posted as a result of the article, i have a new addition to the silentlambs website.. a new webpage for battered lambs.. this will be accessed off the victims page with a clickable link.
there you will be able to read the stories of those who have suffered physical abuse at the hands of wt policy.
all stories will be posted anonymously of course and there will also be a second poems and thoughts page dedicated to victims of physical abuse.
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That is a great idea Bill
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What is going ON?
by Aintthatcute infirst of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
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Thanks Esmeralda
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What is going ON?
by Aintthatcute infirst of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
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You Know,
Hi, and thanks for your post,
You stated in part:
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Honoring men who serve in a position originally arranged by Jehovah is actually honoring God. It doesn't mean that some individualswho might occupy that position are necessarily worthy of honor. Look at the case of King Saul. He was hand-picked for the kingship by Jehovah's prophet Samuel, and yet Saul became a petty tyrant. David, who became a national hero and was picked to replace Saul as king, nonetheless, showed respect for the positon of one anointed by Jehovah. So, he didn't take matters into his own hands but waited on God to handle the matter, which of course he did.
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Q: How do I honor the "individuals who might occupy that position" and "are necessarily worthy of honor." and still "actually honoring God."? If I look at Saul's case: "He was hand-picked for the kingship by Jehovah's prophet Samuel" Was he hiding any defilements (gross sins, as defined by the WBTS) or was he truely a good canidate before he was "hand-picked"? I think this is similar to the experience I told.
Now, if I use David, "who became a national hero and was picked to replace Saul as king, nonetheless, showed respect for the positon of one anointed by Jehovah." And , "didn't take matters into his own hands but waited on God to handle the matter, which of course he did. " Then, it seems to me that you are telling me to flee (because that is what David did, right?) from the Sauls and their government, and "waited on God to handle the matter..."? Or, did David take matters into his own hands when he fled?
I just don't seem to undrstand.
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What is going ON?
by Aintthatcute infirst of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
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GOZZ,
Hi,
Why don't the elders have to pray? I thought all who were appointed were prayed over by the elders?
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What is going ON?
by Aintthatcute infirst of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
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MrMoe,
Thanks, where can I get a copy of "Crisis of Conscience?"
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What is going ON?
by Aintthatcute infirst of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
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YERUSALYIM,
Sorry, didn't think I was questioning free-will or the individual. In fact, I'm glad that the issue is in front of him and not inside anymore. My concern is not of the nature "We are all sinners" that is a givein' concept. The doctrine (I think you want me to question)"
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But I recommend questioning doctrine rather than the actions of the so called APPOINTED and ANNOINTED.
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I'm not sure what you mean? You see, the appointment for ones to the position of an Elder, or Ministerial Servent is based on scriptures the WTS uses. In other words, the appointed individual(s) are to be clean of defilements etc,.I'll so some more checking on this and thanks for you thoughts.
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What is going ON?
by Aintthatcute infirst of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
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First of all: I am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks. Whoow! Glad I got that out of the way.
Something that really bothers me is: When they say that the GB all the way down, Elders, and Ministerial servents are "Appointed" by Jehovah, and are deserving of "Double Honor". Okay, i've read this in the Bible, but here's my story:This guy I know who married one of my wife's childhood frieds was very well known in our circuit. He had many privileges, and after getting married, he was appointed a Ministerial servent. Well, one day his wife moves back in with her parents. (Naturally raising the enquiring eye-brows of her childhood congregation.) Her parents, later revealed that this guy had been with a women before he had married their daughter, and gaining privileges too. (You don't ask questions with topics like these, you just listen.) Now, he had been in the "Truth" from a young age, so, you could say he knew the consequences. My question is this:
"Why did Jehovah appoint him as a Ministerial servant?" Dosen't this go against all that the WT has taught people about Jehovah, the Bible, and Jehovah's ways?
I need answers to this. I have a few more, but will post later if that is OK?
PS. I've posted this earlier in "RE:How you know this ain't the truth"
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Experiences: How you know it ain't the 'truth'
by LDH inplease post your experiences here for any lurkers to read.
when i was a teenager, there was a young lady early 20's who had moved into our cong.
she had a newborn son and had just married her worldly boyfriend, the father of the baby.
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First of all: I am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks. Whoow! Glad I got that out of the way.
Something that really bothers me is: When they say that the GB all the way down, Elders, and Ministerial servents are "Appointed" by Jehovah, and are deserving of "Double Honor". Okay, i've read this in the Bible, but her's my story:
This guy I know who married one of my wife's childhood frieds was very well known in our circuit. He had many privileges, and after getting married, he was appointed a Ministerial servent. Well, one day his wife moves back in with her parents. (Naturally raising the enquiring eye-brows of her childhood congregation.) Her parents, later revealed that this guy had been with a women before he had married their daughter, and gaining privileges too. (You don't ask questions with topics like these, you just listen.) Now, he had been in the "Truth" from a young age, so, you could say he knew the consequences. My question is this:
"Why did Jehovah appoint him as a Ministerial servant?" Dosen't this go against all that the WT has taught people about Jehovah, the Bible, and Jehovah's ways?
I need answers to this. I have a few more, but will post later if that is OK?
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