Scully, sns, Nosferatu, mortons68, A Paduan, peacefulpete, and anyone I missed;
Thanks for the virtual-ear. Boy, I needed to vent that out. I was quite mad, and I do appoligize for saying too much.
I am leanning heavely on speaking with a marrage counselor. I do have many reservations about talking to elders about any of this. The elder I spoke with last night, turned around right after our conversation, and phoned the PO. Where's he going with that? I didn't want anyone else involved, and that irritates me. He said he had to tell the PO because of the seriousness of the situation.
I did tell him last night that as the family "Head" that I don't want to talk to him (or the elders), that I am telling him a problem within my family, and they need to talk to my wife about the problem. He stated that as elders they need to get with both of us. I told him that according to the scriptures I am the "Head" of my family and the scriptures indicate I have no "Head" here on earth. Jesus is my only "Head" according to the scriptures. We spared over that for a bit, in fact, he was getting angry. He told me I didn't need to be yelling or arguing over the phone about it we could discuss it later with the two of us. I argued back that I was yelling, I was talking louder because I was very upset.
Well, I most likely opened a can of worms, or maybe I did something that needed to be done--I don't know.
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I mad and don't know what to do.
by Aintthatcute ini am a jw and have posted here before.
i have, for a long time been dealing with the option to "get out" as it were.
i have a wife who is loooked at as "so faithful" in the words of a one influential sister here in ***, wi.
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I mad and don't know what to do.
by Aintthatcute ini am a jw and have posted here before.
i have, for a long time been dealing with the option to "get out" as it were.
i have a wife who is loooked at as "so faithful" in the words of a one influential sister here in ***, wi.
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I am a JW and have posted here before. I have, for a long time been dealing with the option to "Get Out" as it were. I have a wife who is loooked at as "So Faithful" in the words of a one influential sister here in ***, WI.
You see, about 6 years ago my wife and I started "relying" on the elders in our previous congregation in , IN. to help us with our marriage. That was fine-and-dandy; at least for the moment, until they started using what I said to them against me. Keep in mind, that what I said was always with my wife and 2 elders. Maybe I am wrong; but for those of you who know how the Ministeral Servant "appointment" works (which I thought I was familar with) you have to preside over your family in a fine maner...yada, yada, yada!
Yes, I was "reaching out" as the JWs call it. You see, my wife had depression; that is not good. Well, it's okay to be an Elder and have depression; however, it is not okay to be a publisher who is "reaching out" and have a wife with depression. I am not so sure it is depression, it is more like a way to get her way; a tool as it were, to have a controling way to get things the way she wants them. Her dad; whom was "appointed" an Elder in 1975 (The year the appointments were established). Her mom is well known in the--circuit--as the "head" of the house. In fact, "all of the women in the her family are known as having that charateristic", in the words of J. T. J. T, told that to a few of us including my brother-in-law, who is married to my wife's sister. My brother-in-law (who is now an elder), also experienced the same trouble I have been experiencing for the last 11 years; only, he was able to reason with his wife, and now they have a great relationship. Is it because my wife is the oldest girl that my family is still experiencing this? I don't know. She is a very demanding (emotionally) person. She needs constant "me" and I don't think that is healthy: spiritually, or physically.
I called one of the Elders tonight, and asked him how I go about becoming a non-JW. I don't want to be one any more! I am tired of dealing with the emotions of my wife. She makes me so angry, and when I want to be left alone (here she comes again), she keeps coming after me. I have told her that I want time by myself, and she just keeps coming...! She makes me so mad at times that I start swearing! That is so unlike me. But she just won't let up. Plus, she gets so mad that she thinks it's okay to slap me. Now mind you, she is looked at in the congregation as "So Faithfull" because she takes the kids to the meetings and I haven't been regular.
The elder I spoke with tonight told me, "we have tried to get you to open up, but I wouldn't talk to them." Well, no; I don't want them to use any thing I say against me again. He said, "I don't know what happened (with the elders in my last congregation) in the past." I told him, that shouldn't make a difference because all the elders are appointed by God's Holy Spirit, and asked him if that was right. He just stuck to the idea that the elders here don't know what happened in my previous congregation. I don't buy it! All of the WTS literature says that the elders are appointed by God. If I'm wrong, than show me! He wants to set up a time to talk with me and my wife. I think that is fair on a humane stand-point, but I don't know if I want to go through that again: having things used against me when I think I have things ironed out with my wife. I told them awhile back that I will never reach out aagain. I did it once, and looking back I felt like I was doing it for "man" and not for God.
Well I feel a little better now so I'll end here.
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So What's Your Porn-Star Name? (Fluff, BTW)
by Englishman inyou take the name of your favourite pet as the first part of your porn-star name, then you take your mothers maiden name for your porn-star surname.. which makes me...george bennet, hmm fairly ordinary i suppose... but her ladyship becomes...poppy male...ah, it works sometimes then!.
this could be good.
englishman.
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Mammfee Dowling
Too funny! LOL
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Sad Songs
by Larry ini'm compiling a cd of songs that make you cry (i'm in that mood).
what songs are tear jerkers to you?
thanks - ll
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"The Little Girl" By John Michael Montgomery:
"Her parents never took the young girl to church. Never spoke of his name, never read her his word.
Two non-belivers walking lost in this world took their baby with them what a sad little girrrrl. Her daddy drank all day and her mommy did drugs never wanted to play, or give kisses and hugs. She'd watch the TV and sit there on the couch while her mom fell asleep and her daddy went out.
And the drinking and the fighting just got worse every night. Behind their couch she'd be hiding - Oh! what a sad little life.
And like it alwasy does; the bad just got worse, with every slap, and every curse. Untill her daddy, in a drunk rage one night used a gun on her mom, and then took his life.
And some people from the city took the girl far away. To a new mom and a new dad. Kisses and hugs everyday.
Her first day of Sunday school the teacher walked in, and small little girl stared at a picture of Him. She said I know that man up there on that cross. I don't know his name, but I know he got off.
Because he was there in my old house and held me close to his side. As I hid there behind our couch the night my parents died."
So sad.
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what would they do?
by fairy in.
this has not happened to me, but i am curious as to what the elders would do if they came to you and asked about something you had done and you said you did not want to discuss it...and left it at that......they couldnt do anything about it could they?
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If they are coming to you on hearsay, then tell them that the WT says that the Bro/Sis making the accusation is to approach you first. Not go and get the Elders involved first. You know; Mat 18 and all....
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How do they do that. I tried it 6 times and it was right all 6 times.
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Crazy accusations
by bomatt6 inyou can copy your post below to make sure it is not lost:.
all of this accusation stuff is so crazy.
i'm not buying any of this that is done against the catholics nor.
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What if you were the victim? What if one of your children, or one of your siblings, or their children were the victim?
Let's start with YOU as the victim. You go to your parents and tell them "So-and-so molested me!" Then your parents said, "Thank you for telling us dear child, now forgive him and ask him to get help." Do you think this "pedo" will get help willingly, or will others means have to interceed to get him the help he needs? How would you be sure he wouldn't ever violate you again! How would your world have changed if you were a victim? How would you sleep at night?
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Video of the march ...
by Simon inadded to the list .
live footage of the 'rabble':.
streaming media
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Hi Simon,
I Have broadband and would like to have access to the ftp site. I tried emailing you but it was denied. Whazz-up with that?
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I found this on the WTS website concerning the UN
by Leander inthis is actually posted under the first massive thread about the society and un, but i thought maybe it should have a post dedicated to this shocking softening of opinion.. my original post was as follows:.
i just shared the information with my wife about the society and the un.
she then replied that this situation was no different than paul making use of the goverment to further the preaching work.
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Leander,
Who every told you to "keep your marriage" strong in one of thes posts. They aren't kidding. I've seen how the Elders work to the benifit of the wife (or the one who is a JW). She may be able to use scriptures to her advantage. Hope you take it slow.
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Why so much DEFICIT?
by Aintthatcute inwhen i sit at a ca and the bro comes out and reads the financial report it is alwasy in the red (deficit).
then i ask myself: "if we own this building, the parking area, and there is no food being served; how in the world can we have a deficit?
" typically, the deficit is in the range of $5000 and $7000.
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Thanks everyone for your posts. I am finally convinced that CAs are BIG MONEY MAKERS!
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