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  Average Age of this Forum?

  by Garrett in

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  heyo!.

  i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.

  i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..

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  Everyday expressions used by JWs that are NOT in the bible...

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  reading another thread made me realise that there are numerous expressions used as everyday witness terminology, that is not in the bible.... such as:.

  governing body.

  paradise earth.

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  "Happifying"
  
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  I thought it was good. Like Kairos said, there is NO WAY Morris would have answered ANY serious questions regardless who he thought it was coming from.
  

  If he thought it was coming from a Bethelite, he would have told them to take it up with their Bethel Elder (or whatever they have now). If he thought Lloyd was an R&F JW he would have said to write a letter. The way Lloyd handled it allowed him the time to tell him directly that he is a fraud. That would not have been accomplished with questions.

  I think there should be more of this type of thing sans the prank part. They try make us paranoid and scared of EVERYTHING and mistrusting of EVERYBODY, even those within our own congregations. And now they are using technology to spread that fear even farther. I think we need to do the same back on them. Use technology to make them paranoid. Make them be in fear and suspicious of everyone around them. They should be made to know on a regular basis that they are being watched and it may be their right-hand man that may be their worst enemy.

  Within the bounds of legality, isn't there someone close to HQ that can paparazzi these guys on a regular basis. Lets get some photos of them as they come and go from the compound. Lets get some photos of what cars they are driving in and so forth. If I lived in the area that is what I would be doing.
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  Thank you...

  by Garrett in

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  some of you may have seen my previous post regarding my concerns with leaving the organization.. so many of you responded and were so kind and helpful, that is was rather overwhelming.

  i didn't expect so many responses.

  a lot of you also provided links to research as well as some books to read.

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  it feels so free once you realize there is NOTHING to be afraid of and NOTHING to feel guilty about.
  
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  Quick introduction

  by OzGirl in

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  only have a few minutes to spare so thought i would throw this together.. been in for about 30 years.

  questions and doubts gathered over that time.

  i have a keen interest in the legal and financial matters of the watchtower.. came across this site about 5 years ago.

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  Welcome OZGIRL. I too have not much time to post but read everyday.
  
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  Need list of notable bible people who Jah let slide

  by RedPillPopper in

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  need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.

  thanks for any info.. .

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  The reason for my OP is that I'm writing a letter to my adult son who on our last visit told me he will now be "limiting" his association with me. He was recently appointed MS (something I should be proud of except now I fully know TTATT) so he is feeling pressure to tow the Party Line.
  

  I went thru an abrupt fade in mid 2013 with a marriage situation of being 10yr separated (her doing, mental illness) and fully divorced Feb 2014 (my doing, had enough of Org BS).

  I'm trying to make him understand how utterly insane my situation was in that no matter what I did I would never be an "Acceptable Person" within the Org. More on that in another post...............

  Here is my analogy list that will be included in the letter. Let me know what you think.

  
  

   

  ·         Cain - Jehovah sits back and does nothing while Cain plots and carries out the murder of his brother. Then after the deed is done Jah makes an escape plan for Cain.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

  ·         Lot - Jehovah, just having destroyed two cities for homosexuality lets Lot have incestuous sex with his two daughters and that's OK.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

   

  ·         Aaron - Makes golden calf, bows to it. Nothing happens to him. In fact he is put in charge of the priesthood.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

  ·         David - An adulterer and murderer among other things. Other people punished for it and he gets to keep his kingship. Is considered "Jehovah's Friend".

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

  ·         Bathsheba - Adulteress. Other people punished and the Messiah gets to come through her instead of David's other faithful wives.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

  ·         Solomon - Directly disobeys Jah with marriage to foreign wives. Worships false gods, dies an "apostate" but kept his kingship throughout and is said will get a resurrection.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

  ·         Manasseh - sacrificed his children to false gods. practiced spiritism. Jehovah punished him, he felt bad, ask for forgiveness. Jah forgives him completely and restores his kingship.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

  ·         Jacob - Stole the birthright by lying.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

  ·         Daniel - Dan 4:9 “‘O Bel·te·shaz′zar the chief of the magic-practicing priests". He would have had to practice and encourage spiritism to have this position yet Jehovah used him as a prophet.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

  ·         Woman with flow of blood - She broke the Law concerning uncleaness and involved the Messiah in it no less. She was cured and commended for her faith.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

  ·         Peter - Denied Jesus 3 times (same as renouncing one's faith in Hitler concentration camps) yet Jesus forgives him completely with no restrictions and he keeps his Apostleship and is given Keys to the Kingdom.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

   

  ·         Paul - Persecutes the Christians in the extreme. Jesus uses him as a foremost Apostle.

                  But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.
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  Need list of notable bible people who Jah let slide

  by RedPillPopper in

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  need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.

  thanks for any info.. .

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  Thought of another one, Daniel

  Dan 4:9 “‘O Bel·te·shaz′zar the chief of the magic-practicing priests"
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  Need list of notable bible people who Jah let slide

  by RedPillPopper in

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  need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.

  thanks for any info.. .

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  Thanks, my first take by memory was:

  • Cain
  • Lot
  • Aaron
  • David
  • Bathsheba
  • Solomon
  • Manasseh
  • Peter
  • Woman with flow of blood
  • Paul
  • I know there are more................
    
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  Need list of notable bible people who Jah let slide

  by RedPillPopper in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.

  thanks for any info.. .

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  Need a list of people like Cain, Lot, David, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but Jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to. Thanks for any info.
  

  
  
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  When elders approach you.....how do you/did you respond?

  by Blackfalcon98 in

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  so, back when you were still in, or even now (for those still in), how do you respond when the elders ask to speak with you in the back room?

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  I have not been to KH since April of '13 and the last time I was asked to go into the "back room" I said very boldly to the COBE "no I won't go in that room anymore, I will speak to you in the parking lot". He looked surprised and said "well that's very interesting".
  

  So as we were walking out the KH for the parking lot, the 2nd elder was a little late and had to actually run up beside us so he could be there as the "2nd Witness" to anything they might catch me at. I was about 75% over my fear of them and knowing TTATT. If I was 100% I would have told the 2nd elder to excuse himself as I would only talk to one person.