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  The Guardian: JWs Church says it will comply with mandatory reporting of child abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/aug/04/jehovahs-witness-church-says-it-will-comply-with-mandatory-reporting-of-child-abuse.

  august 4, 2015. australian associated press .

  the jehovahs witness church says it will comply with mandatory reporting obligations when they learn about sexual abuse crimes against children in their congregation.. a royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse has heard that the theocratic church records more than one child abuse allegation every month yet in 60 years has never reported them to police.. in the second week of a hearing into the churchs handling of abuse incidents, the head of the communitys service desk, rodney spinks, acknowledged they dealt with matters internally and did not encourage reporting to police.. the service desk under the auspices of the churchs legal entity, the watchtower bible and tract society australia, is the first point of contact for elders looking for advice on how to deal with child abuse reports.. spinks said the first issue addressed is the safety of the child, and elders are referred to watchtower publications on the matter.. they are also given generic advice based on a handbook that says they should never suggest not reporting the allegation to police.. spinks acknowledged they had not had a practice, against the wishes of the victim or otherwise, to directly report to police.. the commission chair, peter mcclellan, pointed out there were mandatory reporting obligations when a crime had been committed.. spinks said he had been made aware of this in these hearings and the church would accept and comply with mandatory reporting, regardless of our strongly held religious belief that individuals should have the right to decide what is done with that information.. he said when there were mandatory reporting requirements with some sort of uniformity across the country we will happily and willingly comply.. mcclellan pointed out that uniform laws were not yet in place and they would differ from state to state but they would impose a criminal sanction on a person who knows [about an abuse crime] and does not report.. spinks said he understood that.. mcclellan said the church needed to have a very good look maybe with the help of the churchs lawyers at what the law provides.. the commissioner also pointed out that what the jehovahs witnesses were doing was different to what other churches might be doing because you might be taking allegations and resolving, as you see it, the truth of the allegation by reason of your process.. the commission has heard that the jehovahs witness process is based on a biblical rule that the wrongdoing is only proven when there are two witnesses, and expect the abuse victim to confront the abuser..

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  RedPillPopper

  He said when there were mandatory reporting requirements with some sort of uniformity across the country “we will happily and willingly comply”.

  But if there are NO "mandatory" requirements, its "business as usual"
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  Royal Commission needs to call GB to personally testify

  by RedPillPopper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the gb needs to be subpenaed to testify just like losch was.

  the commission needs to subpena each one individually and make separate fines when each one refuses.

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  When Losch refused to show up in the Campos San Diego case the resultant $13.5 million settlement was mostly punitive damages for his refusal. If those types of fines were levied against each GB member...........that would be nice to say the least.
  
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  Well written, scathing article that summarises first 3 days of RC hearing.

  by Pants of Righteousness in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's been quite a number newspaper articles quoted over the past week, but i would recommend this as a good summary of the first three days of the royal commission hearing in australia - complete with some scathing commentary.. apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but have not seen this posted previously.. https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2015/08/01/royal-commission-examines-jehovah-witnesses-cover/14383512002194.

  just one thing that is not quite right is that the article refers to joe bello as a narrogin elder.

  the assualts took place while the victim was part of the narrogin congregation.

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  RedPillPopper

  The last three paragraphs are PRICELESS!!!
  
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  Royal Commission needs to call GB to personally testify

  by RedPillPopper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the gb needs to be subpenaed to testify just like losch was.

  the commission needs to subpena each one individually and make separate fines when each one refuses.

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  RedPillPopper

  The GB needs to be subpenaed to testify just like Losch was. The Commission needs to subpena each one individually and make separate fines when each one refuses.
  
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  Does the .Org have the gall to ignore the RC?

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been mulling over the options that the wt has to take in regard to child abuse.

  in my mind there are the following ones:.

  1. overhaul their entire system, and apologize to all abuse victims.

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  Cattails: They will outwardly comply with whatever they're required to, and internally the COs will come around directing how its really to be done.

  They may do this but now we have so many "moles" that would get the official letters to CO's that could be forwarded to the Royal Commission and any other relevant government agency. I think that needs to be done now each and every time to show how the Org likes to thumb their noses at governmental authorities behind their backs.
  
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  "Report it to the elders if you hear anyone in the congregation talking bad about the GB"

  by hardtobeme in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last night and elder gave the bible highlights at the congregation.

  he talked about apostasy.

  and among other things he said: "report to the elders if you hear anyone in the congregation talking bad about the governing body".

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  PM a few of us the Elder's email, FB and/or any other contact info. They need to be called out on this stuff.
  
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  Email exchange between an elder and me

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the following is an exchange of 3 emails between an elder in my wife's congregation and me.

  it's a hispanic congregation in los angeles area:.

  is it a cult or not??.

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  RedPillPopper

  I love (hate) how they refuse to look at ANY negative evidence. They just project blame back on us and stick their head in the sand.
  
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  Girls if you're internet dating and want an idea for a good profile this one got me 137 messages in less than 24hours

  by KateWild in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hi there guys,yes i do like having fun.

  i am am very fun loving and can have fun everyday if you like.i am retired now i have 16 kids to 16 different dads.

  i live alone as the youngest one who is 16 has just had a baby and has her own place two doors from me.

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  RedPillPopper

  Awesome
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  Just an introduction

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.

  allow myself to introduce myself.

  lol.

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  RedPillPopper

  Welcome Ricky.

  As others have said, do lots of things together that are non-JW. Do things for yourself that make you happy and then possibly your wife will continue to see how happy you are without JW then she perhaps will start to self-deprogram.
  
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  JW's came to my door 6 weeks ago. I told them I was inactive.......

  by Alchemist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  6 weeks ago some jws came to my door.

  i've been inactive for 8 years.

  after they gave their presentation i told them i was inactive.

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  RedPillPopper

  Welcome Alchemist.

  Keep learning about the wonderful thing called Life. Life outside the Org is a wonderful thing once you shed yourself of the fear and guilt they want to keep you under.

  Outside of the few political/social/enviro issues going on in the world today (which are serious), now is the best time to be alive. People do have more material things but what they do with them and how they view them is the important thing. There are many millions of people who view them in a balanced manner and use their material wealth to help others. The Org likes to demonize everything material that is not given to them.

  You have many friends here who will not judge you.