eyefell4it2

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  Why are we so hard on JW's??

  by James Mixon in

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  i was thinking about this last night.

  what would happen if.

  someone new check out this site, what would they think?.

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  I think there are definitely some harsh things said by some people but it reflects their experience within the organization. I think you are correct in that many of the members of the JW world are good people or at least try to be and they are simply misguided in following some of their beliefs such as disfellowshipping, etc. But the hurt and trauma and confusion caused by the overall organization under the guidance of imperfect men (ie the GB) who refuse to admit they are imperfect (and that their "prophesies" are just a thinly disguised tactic at fear-mongering) further compounds the situation. You have to realize that just like people who may've been abused or mistreated, trusting anyone is hard and to have a forum where they can safely vent their concerns, experiences and such is exactly what they need to help their healing process. I always say if you don't like it, don't read it. I have been out for over 10 years but just recently got turned on to this site and it has helped me tremendously so while someone who has never had a negative experience with the JWs may be turned off by the site, for those in shoes like mine, it can be extremely helpful and also provide a resource to know what's going on within the organization (due to having family members still in, etc) without having to be a part of it. I hope that sort of explains things a little bit.
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  HOW EXACTLY does god communicate with or direct the GB?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  we're all familiar with the organisations claims (and have seen the flow diagrams in books and mags) that the gb is "directed by god".

  in turn, the local elders are "directed by god".

  so, how exactly do they suppose this happens?

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  You mean Jehovah doesn't directly talk to them?  

  
  
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  This is the man who made it all happen!

  by Terry in

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  william miller.. do you know how important this man has been to your life?

  do you know your life would have been entirely different (without a doubt) had he not lived?.

  read on!.

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  bumped....great read especially for newbies.
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  Translating and deciphering witness expressions.

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  i wanted to start a thread with correct explanations of what witnesses really mean when they say stuff... please add to it!.

  "we missed you at the last meeting" = "where were you?

  why did you miss a meeting!?".

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  New Light = blindly accept this change without questioning why or how
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  Church of Almighty God in China

  by southwest in

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  it's interesting to look at the beliefs of this cult in china from a jw perspective:.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/eastern_lightning.

  and the response of the chinese government to the recent murder by members of the group:.

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  eyefell4it2

    I learn something new (and disturbing) daily.
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  First Time Post - Long time reader

  by Samaritan At the Well in

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  today is my first post on jwd, i was one of jehovahs witness for almost 50 years of my life, i was born into the religion.

  i was baptized at a young age and once i got married i was a very spiritual woman as they would call me.

  my husband and i served as full time pioneers, we traveled abroad and went to international conventions, did some special pioneer service in other states in the us.

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  Congrats and I truly understand your fear and I deeply respect you for taking an open and honest look at the cult/religion. Though I have been out for 10 years, certain fears still resonate with me such as what if I am seen Xmas shopping or taking a toke on a cigarette outside of a restaurant and word gets back to my parents or their associates in the congregation (I was a born in as is my mother, and my father converted when he was in high school). I even delete this website from my history in case my computer messes up (one of my dad's professional skills is fixing computers and he has had to work with my computers to update the anti-virus software and such). I know it was a blow to realize TTATT but you are better for it. I read Crisis myself and it completely opened my eyes. Even though I had been out for YEARS, I was still DEVASTATED to discover that the thoughts that had quietly lurked in my heart and mind all this time had valid roots. But it also freed me from the fear of Armageddon coming in and tearing me from my parents simply because a group of men decided I was not meant to be in their "religion" with no regard to the multiple appeals and letters I wrote (alone, pregnant and scared). Now my life feels better and though I still have fears, no longer am I trapped because I don't buy into that group's thinking and for once I am actually enjoying my life with my husband and our children. It gets easier and you will begin to feel better once you live your life free of their false doctrines.
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  JW making music videos now?

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  i'm not sure if this is new since it is hard to keep up with the ever changing jw.

  it is morphing so much.

  i went to jw.org tv video for november and around 53 or 54 minutes into the broadcast the gb guy introduce a music video called "we won't forget you".

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  @pronomono absolutely a classic and quite entertaining too!
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  Small (tiny) victories

  by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

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  i had a conversation with my wife today about child abuse as it's in the news, and i managed to slip in the fact that wt (not an individual, but the .org itself) has just been ruled against in the states to the tune of 13 million or so.

  she knows i'm opposed to the procedures we have in place, and she can definitely see that it makes sense to go straight to the police, and said she would do immediately if it were our children.

  we had a fairly local case where the elders positively marched the offender to the station themselves, and good for them for doing so, but she most likely thinks everyone would do that out of common sense.

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  Applause to you for having this convo. When I tried to speak with my father subtly about the lawsuit, he stated the same ramble the R&F probably have been indoctrinated to believe "there are bad people in all organizations." He seemed to imply an indifferent attitude to the matter and quickly got off the phone. Hopefully I planted a seed for him to further research the issue so he can understand just how involved in this matter the members of the Borg in NY are. Also sadly interesting to be seeing the worldwide trend of this issue. Hopefully as a father and grandfather of several girls and young women, he will start to recognize this and maybe do his own independent research. Like you said, the TINY victories....
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  newbie to site looking for fellow DF's and DA's (or anyone else who has good conversation to offer)

  by eyefell4it2 in

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  i am new to the site.

  i started perusing it this weekend and wish i had found it 10 years ago when i was on my way out.

  anyways, long story short, was df'd for you guessed it...fornication or "loose conduct" even though i had been a pioneer with an elder father, grandfather and uncle and no previous issues.

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  Greetings again!

  I appreciate all of the support everyone has shown and thank you guys! One thing I have found particularly interesting is the Bethel llife forums. I used to want to go to Bethel but when I went to visit it felt like everyone was a like an Android or something. Fake smiles and all. Fortunately I didn't go that route and I am so glad I didn't.

  To those that have read the forums about Bethel, what did you find most interesting or shocking?

  For me it was the hint about homosexuality and partner swapping that occurred. I often wondered how a group of single men coped with no women or how married couples truly interacted and I am happy to know they are still human with fleshly desires just like the rest of us but saddened that they feel so repressed by the Org that they hide their true selves or even engage in behaviors out of frustration because they can't know themselves. Wasn't sure if I had to start a new topic to get that question answered but I just wanted to put it out there. Anyone else's comments on that matter are certainly welcomed and appreciated!

  @Scary21 I completely understand the whole born in thing and I often find those born-in have a harder time adjusting to life outside the Org than those who weren't born in. Its almost like a rebirth of sorts, so liberating when you feel free enough to celebrate holidays or go to other churches and find the Demons and Satan don't swallow you up or God doesn't smite you with Fire like you were taught to feel about those things! Thank you for making me feel so welcome!

  @Koky.soon3 I completely understand that co-dependent feeling. If you ever want to talk, I am here. I won't judge or try to force you to leave because we each must be responsible for our own self. Private message me if you wanna chat!
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  newbie to site looking for fellow DF's and DA's (or anyone else who has good conversation to offer)

  by eyefell4it2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am new to the site.

  i started perusing it this weekend and wish i had found it 10 years ago when i was on my way out.

  anyways, long story short, was df'd for you guessed it...fornication or "loose conduct" even though i had been a pioneer with an elder father, grandfather and uncle and no previous issues.

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  @BigMac Greetings! I find it astonishing that so many JWs worldwide have the same thoughts, issues and concerns regarding JWs. I also find it refreshing we can all meet here! Thank you for your welcome

  @AlwaysBusy Thank you for responding! I feel horrible that you and your family had to experience that and I hope this forum has helped you in your healing. I am happy to be able to speak to you and I wish you and your family the best. It is shocking to me they had the gall to DF you! I hate the hypocrisy and the "org before individual" mentality it promotes. They have done so much damage to people emotionally over the years and I suffered from depression for years. It does help to have like minds to speak to without feeling as though you are being condemed for your feelings.

  @BlackFalcon are you active because you want to be, have to be or other reasons? (You don't have to answer if you don't want to). I know the world publisher is misleading as those who actually publish the rubbish probably don't believe any of it and yet you are expected to peddle it to someone with your full support without questioning it.