i was thinking about this last night.
what would happen if.
someone new check out this site, what would they think?.
@ James Mixon
I completely understand. I have parents in as well as an elderly grandmother who breaks down in tears if I call her saying she is "scared they (the elders) will find out" before hanging up on me. How crazy is that? So I get it completely. I have children who ponder why she acts that way and how do you explain such craziness to children whom we teach from DAY 1 that their family is who they should love unconditionally as a gift from God?
i was thinking about this last night.
what would happen if.
someone new check out this site, what would they think?.
we're all familiar with the organisations claims (and have seen the flow diagrams in books and mags) that the gb is "directed by god".
in turn, the local elders are "directed by god".
so, how exactly do they suppose this happens?
You mean Jehovah doesn't directly talk to them?
william miller.. do you know how important this man has been to your life?
do you know your life would have been entirely different (without a doubt) had he not lived?.
read on!.
i wanted to start a thread with correct explanations of what witnesses really mean when they say stuff... please add to it!.
"we missed you at the last meeting" = "where were you?
why did you miss a meeting!?".
it's interesting to look at the beliefs of this cult in china from a jw perspective:.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/eastern_lightning.
and the response of the chinese government to the recent murder by members of the group:.
today is my first post on jwd, i was one of jehovahs witness for almost 50 years of my life, i was born into the religion.
i was baptized at a young age and once i got married i was a very spiritual woman as they would call me.
my husband and i served as full time pioneers, we traveled abroad and went to international conventions, did some special pioneer service in other states in the us.
i'm not sure if this is new since it is hard to keep up with the ever changing jw.
it is morphing so much.
i went to jw.org tv video for november and around 53 or 54 minutes into the broadcast the gb guy introduce a music video called "we won't forget you".
@pronomono absolutely a classic and quite entertaining too!
i had a conversation with my wife today about child abuse as it's in the news, and i managed to slip in the fact that wt (not an individual, but the .org itself) has just been ruled against in the states to the tune of 13 million or so.
she knows i'm opposed to the procedures we have in place, and she can definitely see that it makes sense to go straight to the police, and said she would do immediately if it were our children.
we had a fairly local case where the elders positively marched the offender to the station themselves, and good for them for doing so, but she most likely thinks everyone would do that out of common sense.
Applause to you for having this convo. When I tried to speak with my father subtly about the lawsuit, he stated the same ramble the R&F probably have been indoctrinated to believe "there are bad people in all organizations." He seemed to imply an indifferent attitude to the matter and quickly got off the phone. Hopefully I planted a seed for him to further research the issue so he can understand just how involved in this matter the members of the Borg in NY are. Also sadly interesting to be seeing the worldwide trend of this issue. Hopefully as a father and grandfather of several girls and young women, he will start to recognize this and maybe do his own independent research. Like you said, the TINY victories....
i am new to the site.
i started perusing it this weekend and wish i had found it 10 years ago when i was on my way out.
anyways, long story short, was df'd for you guessed it...fornication or "loose conduct" even though i had been a pioneer with an elder father, grandfather and uncle and no previous issues.
Greetings again!
I appreciate all of the support everyone has shown and thank you guys! One thing I have found particularly interesting is the Bethel llife forums. I used to want to go to Bethel but when I went to visit it felt like everyone was a like an Android or something. Fake smiles and all. Fortunately I didn't go that route and I am so glad I didn't.
To those that have read the forums about Bethel, what did you find most interesting or shocking?
For me it was the hint about homosexuality and partner swapping that occurred. I often wondered how a group of single men coped with no women or how married couples truly interacted and I am happy to know they are still human with fleshly desires just like the rest of us but saddened that they feel so repressed by the Org that they hide their true selves or even engage in behaviors out of frustration because they can't know themselves. Wasn't sure if I had to start a new topic to get that question answered but I just wanted to put it out there. Anyone else's comments on that matter are certainly welcomed and appreciated!
@Scary21 I completely understand the whole born in thing and I often find those born-in have a harder time adjusting to life outside the Org than those who weren't born in. Its almost like a rebirth of sorts, so liberating when you feel free enough to celebrate holidays or go to other churches and find the Demons and Satan don't swallow you up or God doesn't smite you with Fire like you were taught to feel about those things! Thank you for making me feel so welcome!
@Koky.soon3 I completely understand that co-dependent feeling. If you ever want to talk, I am here. I won't judge or try to force you to leave because we each must be responsible for our own self. Private message me if you wanna chat!
