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  WTS leader rants against higher education

  by hoser in

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  on jw tv.

  anthony morris is ranting against higher education.

  he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.

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  Tech49. We loved your post (past one also). We couldn't have said it better ourselves!
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  First Time Post - Long time reader

  by Samaritan At the Well in

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  2. experiences

  today is my first post on jwd, i was one of jehovahs witness for almost 50 years of my life, i was born into the religion.

  i was baptized at a young age and once i got married i was a very spiritual woman as they would call me.

  my husband and i served as full time pioneers, we traveled abroad and went to international conventions, did some special pioneer service in other states in the us.

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  Welcome. We loved your story! We have recently joined (lurked for quite a while). Born ins as well.

  Crisis of Conscience is a real eye opener!

  The one thing that excites us about your story (and others on here) is that so many as they call them, "uber dubs" seem to be joining and deciding to leave. So happified! 

  We were NEVER "uber dubs". Something has ALWAYS not felt right. Once we started reading the threads on this website and read Crisis of Conscience all the pieces started to come together. Once it all started to come together for us, it would make our skin crawl to attend any meetings or assemblies. 

  I think what did it for us was the complete lack of love. There is other things as well (a very long list) but the lack of love was the straw that broke the camels back for us.

  We have made our exit as a team (taking our children with us). We have enjoyed the freedom. No more conditional friends and mind numbing meetings/assemblies. No more wearing ties and ankle length skirts!!

  We look forward to hearing more from you in the future.

  Keep smiling and ENJOY every day!!!! It's a beautiful life!!!
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  Time Magazine Article: It Happened to Me: I Grew Up as a Jehovah’s Witness

  by ToesUp in

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  2. experiences

  interesting article in time magazine, from a former witness.. time magazine.

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  Interesting article in Time Magazine, from a former Witness.

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  OMG - January JW Broadcast - be sure to only talk to people who think like you

  by bafh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i couldn't stand it.

  it was so horrible.

  they really want people to stay simple and obedient.

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  I wish they would broadcast this one at the KH. I would love to be a fly on the wall and watch all the Elders who have their kids in college skwirm in their seats. Then the ones who's kids are "pursuing Kingdom interests", can glare at the ones who are in college or have their kids in college. It's so fun to watch!!!

  Lurking Elders..if you have your kids in college that is GREAT (I'm all for it) but don't raise your hand during the anti college Watchtower lesson or even worse read the WT. We've seen this and it doesn't set well within the congregation.

  The spiritual competition is unreal!!!!
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  When elders approach you.....how do you/did you respond?

  by Blackfalcon98 in

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  so, back when you were still in, or even now (for those still in), how do you respond when the elders ask to speak with you in the back room?

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  Amen _Morpheus! That is EXACTLY what I would do. In our case, they could care less about you until you leave. Once you leave they will call you a couple of times a year, when the CO comes around. You are just a check box on their to do list. Can you feel the love? 
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  Jehovah's Witnesses activity game - Dressing and Undressing Children

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with all the jehovah's witnesses child abuse scandals being reported on by the media around the world at the moment what were the governing body of jehovah's witnesses thinking?.

  link to activity page:http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/activities/time-to-get-ready/.

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  Okay??? Paper dolls??? Those were popular when I was a kid and now I'm old. Once again...these guys are WAY behind about 30 years, VERY out of touch and weird. Typical!!
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  Freedom Post # 1 - First Timer

  by 7Starz in

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  2. experiences

  synchronicity - the simultaneous occurrence of events that appear significantly related but have no discernible causal connection.

  today is the first day of the rest of my life.

  freedom.

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  "I was previously an elder and saw my fair share of the good ole boys network, favoritism, and cronyism, whatever you’d like to call it.  It's amazing how much some of them think of themselves.  They fail to realize their power is all an illusion without the religion.  Minus the religion they are nothing."

  Welcome 7Starz! We (born ins/3rd Generation) have just joined recently also. Been lurking for a long time. It seems like ALOT of Elders are starting to wake up. The Elders get to see so much of the hypocrisy. You are right, some Elders do think ALOT of themselves and would be nothing if it wasn't for their religion.

  We look forward to hearing from you again!   

  It's great to be free! Enjoy!
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  "You are still married, and still happy ?"

  by Phizzy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i met an aging, well, late sixties, pioneer sister a few days back, from a congregation four removes away, and a different circuit to my old congo.

  i have known her since i was a kid.. i wasn't quite sure at first if she knew our "status" as we exchanged pleasantries, but it soon became clear she knew exactly our situation, that we walked away a few years ago.. she asked me about my views on life now, and listened respectfully, and said she appreciated my view, but a couple of questions that she threw at me, as in the thread title, showed that she was surprised that mrs phizzy and i had not gone off the rails after we left.. the mind control goes so very deep does it not ?

  she was surprised that our marriage hadn't failed, and that we were now happy.. i wonder if she will ever make the connection that the jw org has lied to her about those of us who leave ?.

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  Congratulations!!!!

  The WT wants everyone to believe that once you leave your life will fall apart. It is kind of like a bad country song.

  Not always the case WT. My mate and I left and are happier than ever! 32+ years and going strong!!!!

  Enjoying life to the full! 

  Cheers Mr. & Mrs. Phizzy!!!
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  Why So Many Young People Are Leaving The Watchtower

  by Jeremy C in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been giving a lot of thought to the young people who are leaving the watchtower organization in recent years.

  last night, i was reading the thread posted by jwfacts a while back in which he provided some statistics and graphs showing the rapidly declining growth in the watchtower.

  one factor that was discussed at length was the high number of young people who do not stay in the organization.

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  I think that this OP was a great one. With Anthony Morris' new JW TV rant on higher education. This organization keeps blaming Higher education for the young ones leaving the org.  They need to take a look in the mirror and see that these young ones are wiser than they give them credit for.

  Kids need something. Something to feel a part of. As a born in, anything that was fun (good clean fun) was always WRONG. Someone in the Congregation (usually a Nazi Elder) usually ruined it for the kids. After a while the kids felt beat down and went out and found other things/people to entertain themselves with (good or bad).

  It's tough growing up in this religion. It's tough growing up in this world.

  I really feel bad for the young ones that are still in. So many are just taking their hopes and dreams away.

  We keep telling our kids to think, listen and speak & never stop learning. When you take peoples (kids too) dreams away, what do you have left?

  Times are getting tougher financially and these kids have it even tougher than we did. They need some form of training to make a decent living. Even some of the Elders and MS's feel this way but can't express it. When your health insurance exceeds your mortgage payment, we have a problem.

  Anyway...if you haven't read the original post, it may be worth the read.    
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  WTS leader rants against higher education

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on jw tv.

  anthony morris is ranting against higher education.

  he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.

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  So question...who dropped off that Bethel attorney @ college? Was it the organization? So if that attorney screws up do they have to step down? If an Elders kid decides to screw up, don't they blame the parents? Daddy has to step down (even if he did a bang up job raising his kids?). 

  "Who dropped them off there"? How smug can you get!

  Also, becoming a Nurse can take up to 4 years of college (if you need to take your core classes). Becoming a nurse is alot of work.

  These guys are so out of touch with reality. Come live in the "real world" with all of us tax payers with a mortgage/rent payments. Come join us for 2-3 hours or more a day, sitting in the city traffic and rushing home to get the kids ready for the meeting. Heaven forbid if you're late!!!! Come help us out with the lawn maintenance/home maintenance on the weekends. I guess that would be "our fault" too. They would just say..."who burdened you down"? Who bought the house? It's ALWAYS YOUR fault, not ours.

  Sorry for the rant.