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  People who are happy in the org

  by jhine in

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  2. beliefs

  i don't know if i can put my musings clearly into words , but i' ll try to be coherant !

  on a couple of other threads lately folk have said that they have no wish to disenchant jws who are happy in the org .

  those who have no personal problems and are content to stay in , thinking that it is good way to live and the nearest thing to the truth .

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  ToesUp

  tor1500 -Yes, it is different when you are the one in the hot seat. I have seen that before,many times.

  My spouse and I were born in. We come from 2 very loving families (parents were very normal witnesses). We always thought that once we left the organization, we would be miserable. Not so. Just the opposite. Once we were away from all the critical people and all the judgement, we began to feel MUCH better.

  We are watching the majority of our family (still ins) taking anti depressants and washing them down with booze. . But wait...they are part of the happiest people on earth. How come my spouse and I seem to be the only ones in the family with there sh** together? We should be miserable. Things that make you go....hmmm!
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  People who are happy in the org

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't know if i can put my musings clearly into words , but i' ll try to be coherant !

  on a couple of other threads lately folk have said that they have no wish to disenchant jws who are happy in the org .

  those who have no personal problems and are content to stay in , thinking that it is good way to live and the nearest thing to the truth .

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  ToesUp

  "The halls are just a smaller taste of what the world is really like. Backbiting, lying, adultery, you name it...it's in the org. "

  You are correct with this statement BUT, when the men in the organization (Elders, MS's, CO's, even the Governing Body). These are the ones chosen by Jehovahs Holy spirit, correct? Jehovah chooses these ones to direct the sheep but some are living a double life. Would you hire any accountant that was well know to have major financial problems or fly on a airplane with a pilot who is known to have a major drinking problem? This is where the hypocrisy comes in. We are tired of hearing, "it's an imperfect organization, made up of imperfect men." I don't buy it anymore and never did. If these imperfect men are chosen by Jehovahs holy spirit, why are these ones cheating on their wives, cheating on their taxes, sending their children to college (a WT article once said that those ones sending their children to college lack faith). How can a man direct the congregation when he lacks faith? The hypocrisy is so blatant! You do get a cross section of people anywhere you go but these men are chosen by Jehovahs holy spirit. No Excuses for some of their actions!
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  The really cool feeling of community within JWs

  by Phaedra in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..

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  ToesUp

  Lovesjah

  If you love Jah so much why are you on an evil website. Go to the Kingdom Hall and tell the Elders what site you are on. Maybe then you will feel the "real love" of your organization. This is why most of us left, the hypocrisy is unbelievable!
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  Trained to Keep Our Mouths Shut

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf_b5kezylw&feature=youtu.be.

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  ToesUp

  We watched this last night. The similarities to the WT is incredible! Thanks for sharing.
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  The really cool feeling of community within JWs

  by Phaedra in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..

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  ToesUp

  We experienced something similar to what dozy stated above. We had a few gatherings that we put together and they were always scrutinized by someone or someone would get offended because they weren't invited. Our home only holds so many people so we would try to invite some who didn't typically get invited to the "more distinguished" ones gatherings. Let's say we would try to mix it up. There was always something that happened, someone would get offended and it would get back to us. Eventually, we quit having gatherings. It just wasn't worth it anymore. We really don't miss it. We are using the money we would use for the gatherings to travel and enjoy our life. Goodbye judgement....hello enjoyment!
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  JW Version Of Spring Cleaning

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the january study edition second study article paragraph 10:.

  we can use the memorial season as an opportunity to look through our wardrobe, our movie and music collections, perhaps even the material stored on our computers, smartphones, and tablets.if i were going to a place where jesus would be present, would i feel uncomfortable wearing this clothing?if i did wear it, would it be obvious to all that i am a follower of christ jesus?would jesus be entertained by watching this movie or by listening to this music?

  if he borrowed my cell phone or tablet, would i be embarrassed by what he saw there?as you consider the subject matter of a video game, ask yourself: would i find it difficult to explain to jesus why i enjoy playing it?

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  ToesUp

  I did spring cleaning a few years ago. Got rid of all my meeting clothes. Thanks WT for the great pointers! As usual you have helped me tremendously!
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  Harvesting of cash

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the wt handbill/invitation coloured brown, it clearly states "no collections" on the left and right sides of one of the pages.

  however, on the newer and replacement handbill/invitation coloured blue/gray, reference to there being no collections is entirely absent.

  i'm not sure if this is because of the present cash harvest or a sign that something even more direct may be under consideration at some time in the future.

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  ToesUp

  Growing up I this cult, we were always proud of not passing a collection plate. Money was never even mentioned. My, how things have changed. Hmmmm!
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  Surely the constant begging must be getting embarrassing

  by konceptual99 in

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  2. friends

  so we had a begging letter for chelmsford tonight followed by a sm item with a video begging for money.

  surely this is getting embarrassing.

  it's constant.

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  ToesUp

  It's pathetic. Hopefully they will keep it up. I think it's making a lot of the rank and file question this tactic and the supposed Holy Spirit.
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  Is zeal beginning to vanish?

  by Caupon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has to be starting to fade somehow.

  the very last time i went out in field service, hardly any were out.

  maybe just about nine people were out and man if you could just see their faces.

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  Wallsofjericho

  You are right, no one really cares. It's a social club. There are certain groups that hang out together. If you have something to give to others, you're all good. Throw a gathering, with ones who love to drink and eat and you're a shoe in with most in the hall. Then there are a few that get jealous and have to open there big mouths and ruin it for everyone. We had that happen to us and eventually had enough of throwing gatherings. We had enough of everything JW and chose a better and happier life for our family. Cheers!
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  Pictures in the Watchtower

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after sitting through last sunday's watchtower i got so sick of seeing the bobbing/nodding heads when talking about the pictures.

  they act like god himself took the picture.

  there must have been 10 comments about the group in service and the one brother was looking at his phone with a smile, which is a dead give away that he was reading something interesting.. what got me was how the older brother in the posed picture had a bible in his hand had a stern look on his face looking at the young brother.

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  ToesUp

  We had a sister (busy body/judgmental type), comment on the photo in the WT. She said the sister in the photo had her mid drift showing. If you looked closely at the photo, it was a belt and not her mid drift. You all know the type I am referring to. Loves to love what is "evil." I am proud to say that I set her straight more than once. Had a blast doing it! I sure do miss her....NOT!