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  Returning

  by Doubtfully Yours in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a member of this community a long time ago and have lurked for years.

  well, i am back and still thoroughly conflicted, with my heart/loyalties as divided as ever.

  please welcome me back, hear me out, and make me feel as welcomed as before.. the wtbts has changed so very much in recent years that i feel trapped in a completely different religion altogether.

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  ToesUp

  Happeanna

  Wow...i don't cry much but your post made me go there. A very heartwarming post. You are brave and a A+ person.
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  Trying to use facts to reason with a Jehovah's Witness

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. humour

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr_is6wqnaa.

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  ToesUp

  Trying to reason with a full in JW is like trying to reason with the wall.
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  Returning

  by Doubtfully Yours in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a member of this community a long time ago and have lurked for years.

  well, i am back and still thoroughly conflicted, with my heart/loyalties as divided as ever.

  please welcome me back, hear me out, and make me feel as welcomed as before.. the wtbts has changed so very much in recent years that i feel trapped in a completely different religion altogether.

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  ToesUp

  Welcome back. As Angus Stewart said during the Australian Royal Commission, this is a captive organization.

  It is hell to "fake it." I think if you are patient there may be more leaving out the door, which may give you the opportunity to make your exit.

  This is a great place to vent and feel like you are not alone. We are here for you. This site has been great therapy for us.
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  My Bethel Exoerience part 14 "The Courtship"

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my strange bethel courtship started with me trying to meet mike stillman's sister, even though he worked in the ink room next to my elevator, we were not good friends, he was just a little to "country" for me........and on the self-righteous side too.

  they say "there is nothing more dangerous in combat then a new guy with a map!

  ".........well, there was nothing more dangerous at bethel then a self-righteous new boy.. .

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  ToesUp

  The long term impact this cult has on people's/family lives is just sickening.
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  2 go bags

  by johnamos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  will any of you post here if you hear anything in this coming thursday (1-14-16) meeting in regards to 2-go-bags being pushed again...

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  ToesUp

  I'm with freemindfade. My fire arm and bullets are ready "to go."
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  new lawsuit

  by gda in

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  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymb1gcxaomo

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  ToesUp

  WT attorney: "there are some bad men that sneak into the organization."

  WELL THEN DO SOMETHING! REPORT THEM YOU IDIOTS!
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  My Bethel Experience part 15 Health, Dismemberment, Death (natural and unnatural) murder.

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is the fun one......... .

  health, dismemberment, death (natural and unnatural) murder and suicide..

  the people at bethel were killing us spiritually.......and sometimes they killed us physically too..

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  ToesUp

  Follow the money! Cheap bastards.
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  Dear Jehovah's witnesses, a question....

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dear jehovah's witnesses and on-the-fencers.. isn't it even a little bit obvious that the watchtower organisation doesn't have jehovah's blessing?.

  if it did, why are your leaders, the governing body, asking you for your money and assets?

  surely, jehovah would provide for the organisation without having to use your hard earned money and assets?.

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  ToesUp

  When we needed money we had to do the dreadful four letter word....WORK! As most of you on this forum have to do. We have to get up each morning and work, so do our children. No one sends all of us money.

  We were advised when times got tough for our family, trust in Jehovah. Well WT, take your own advise, trust in Jehovah or get a JOB.
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  To all JDub lurkers: How can you continue to preach knowing that you are telling lies?

  by macys in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a damn serious question.

  you must know by now that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce and that 607 was initially picked by ct russell by using his "pyramid scheme" measurements.

  there is no hiding these facts yet you continue to preach this nonsense.

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  ToesUp

  We couldn't do it anymore. It went against everything we stand for.

  I think some have tons of family and some rely on the JW's in their businesses or work for JW's. I guess it can be more complicated for some. I try not to judge someone else's personal experiences.

  Also, there are some who may have elderly parents and are looking forward to the inheritance they so rightly deserve. If you call it quits the inheritance may go bye bye and WT gets it all. We have some in our family that we suspect are waiting for elderly parents to pass away before they call it quits. It sounds morbid but it is something we all have to face eventually.

  Just my 2 cents.
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  The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

  by redpilltwice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

  thank you all for the encouraging replies.

  one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

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  ToesUp

  It's nice some have felt comfortable enough that they can confide in you. They must really like you as a person.

  Boy, I wish we could be candid with some of the more intelligent and kinder JW's. We know there has to be some we "connected" with that have to be scratching their heads.