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A big hello and thank you
by iwasblind ini just wanted to introduce myself and say a big hello to all of my mentally diseased friends.. i say friends because i have been lurking for some time so it feels like home (us lurkers are a bit scared and cautious so it takes a while).
i won't bore you with too many details, but i am a born in, currently serving as the cobe of a congregation.
my wife and i have pioneered for the last 10 years and were shaken awake by that ridiculous 15th july 2013 wt about the generation and 1914.. my wife who is much smarter than me has questioned for years.
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"She replies: "I've not missed ANY OF IT since the first meeting we quit attending."
She is a gem! I told my husband the same thing. The reason your wife feels this way is because she knows the "friendships" are all conditional. Who needs them if that is the case!
Hang on to her, she's fantastic.
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A Burger and a Hook-up
by John Aquila inso i went to get a burger just now, and a couple of elders from my former congregation caught me off guard.
they started giving me the we feel so sorry for you, you must be so lonely bit.
i kept telling them im doing great and im not lonely but its like they couldnt hear me talking.
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I think some of the Elders are going through the motions. They are not 100% on board with everything. We experienced this with a few of the cool Elders.
The problem is, you could be the nicest guy in the world but you have to be a "spiritual man". Translation: You too have to go through the motions, i.e. Reaching out for a position, field serve us, meeting attendance, talks, the list goes on and on. You have to be a spiritual task master!
If your not a "spiritual man" you can't date or marry one of the congregation princesses. Even if you are a hard working man with values and character.
What a bunch of bats*** crazies!
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A big hello and thank you
by iwasblind ini just wanted to introduce myself and say a big hello to all of my mentally diseased friends.. i say friends because i have been lurking for some time so it feels like home (us lurkers are a bit scared and cautious so it takes a while).
i won't bore you with too many details, but i am a born in, currently serving as the cobe of a congregation.
my wife and i have pioneered for the last 10 years and were shaken awake by that ridiculous 15th july 2013 wt about the generation and 1914.. my wife who is much smarter than me has questioned for years.
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ToesUp
Welcome iwasblind. It is a rough journey but very well worth the effort. If you can fade successfully, life will get 100% better over time. We have been out for 2+ years. It's a much happier life. We always felt something just wasn't right and faded together. At least you have each other to lean on.
Keep us posted on your progress. There are alot of nice people on here that are or have been through what you are experiencing. We are here for you!
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Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?
by TTATTelder infor some background, i am still in.
still an elder.
very much awake.
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millie210 & PhilsWager2
We have noticed that a lot of "still in's" have not watched this broadcast (or previous ones). What's up with that?
We are like you, we know more now than when we were still in. Weird!!!!
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Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?
by TTATTelder infor some background, i am still in.
still an elder.
very much awake.
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ToesUp
There is a part in the video where Lett makes the comment that we do not coerce people to give money like other religions do. The contradiction is that this statement is made after several minutes of coercing. You could make the comment that "Wow...they don't coerce people to give money like other religions but yet the spent the first 20 minutes asking for money. Isn't that considered coercing?" We have been doing this with some of our "still in " family members. We are trying to chip away, one little thing at a time. It may take some time and patience on our part but it's a thick block of ice to chip away at.
There is SO MUCH in that video that is so wrong but when others are so brainwashed, they just can't see it. It's frustrating!
TTATTelder, I really feel for you having to stay in. That has to be brutal for you. Hang in there my friend!
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What Jehovah's Witnesses need to do to become Mainstream
by FusionTheism ini was raised a jehovah's witness, so i know all the "ins-and-outs" of their theology and belief system..
in my view, they can become a part of mainstream christianity and lose their cult status by making just a few changes for the better:.
1: stop their severe shunning practices.
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I agree with Blues Brother. It may happen but will take a while. If they want Money (which we ALL know THEY DO), they had better make some changes and quit insulting people. The majority of people will not donate when they are discouraged (a small percentage of brain dead ones will). -
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Rumor about the Imitate Jesus Convention
by FusionTheism ini saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.
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as long as shunning continues donations will be slow
by poopie inone of the reasons the watchtower is having problems with donations is because they have refuse to let go of wholesale across the board shunning.
the average publisher is sick of it and jehovah is withholding his full blessing.
when you do not show love to fellow humans you run the risk of not being able to show love which i'm turn has a direct relationship to your joy in turn if your not happy your not motivated to donate lots of money to and arrangement you perceive as unloving all you bethel lurkers convey this message to bro letters and rest of gb stop trying to convince fair minded people to support unloving shunning.
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The vibes I am getting from some "still in " people. They are not donating. Woo Hoo! They are just there for the social life.
If the money isn't or won't be a problem in the future, they would not have put together an hour and a half of begging. Not coercing (as Stephen Lett says "we don't do that like other religions do). Yeah right "Brother" Lett.
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HELP - A Guide to Fade
by cognitivedizzy inhey everybody, been here lurking for years now... i tired of all the gb 2.0 shit and need to fade successfullydo we have a guide, i am very tempted to go out with a bang, but i want my wife with me, she aint a strong witness and would happily trust me ... i love her a lot.
status as of now,,, read coc isocf, been through jw facts and am convinced this religion is bs, also a ms now :( damn.
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Start asking for money or help in physical tasks like moving, taking you somewhere, they will be out of there faster than you can say apostate. I also like Rebel8's suggestions.
Act crazy and ask for assistance and money. It will give them all something to talk about (they thrive on gossip) and you can go home and laugh your a** off.