There's so many damn rules in this cult, who can keep up! We don't miss the rules and are enjoying the freedom.
Posts by ToesUp
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24ROYAL COMMISSION: ARE JWS TAUGHT TO REFRAIN FROM SWEARING ON THE BIBLE OR NOT? JW.ORG PLEASE EXPLAIN!
by steve2 induring yesterday's rc proceedings (wednesday 5th august 2015), one of the victim's lawyers questioned mr vincent toole, the jw organization's legal counsel for the australian branch office.
she asked him why at least two of the jw elders who gave evidence last week refused to swear on the bible.
mr toole appear puzzled by her question and said he did not know.
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I sent this to Angus Stewart this morning (Easter Standard Time)
by Viviane ini just sent this email to angus stewart:.
i hope this email finds you well.
i would like to say thank you for your work on the royal commission, particularly in your handling of the jehovah's witnesses elders and experts during questioning.
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Just received a acknowledgment from Mr. Stewart. He read my letter I sent yesterday. Yeah!Try contacting the Watchtower with a question and getting a response?Here is Mr. Stewart's response.Thank you for your support and interest, and for the information.Kind regardsAngus Stewart SC
Viviane - Thanks for starting this thread!
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The Australian: Women to 'Never Rule' in Jehovah's church
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/women-to-never-rule-in-jehovahs-church/story-fn3dxiwe-1227470092202.
august 4, 2015 annette blackwell.
a jehovah's witness official says the church's stance to never let women hold decision-making roles compares to muslim and aboriginal people adhering to their own ancient beliefs.
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ToesUp
I have worked and associated with women that could run circles (intelligence/financially) around these "men."
This cult treats women as second class citizens. I could tell this pissed the commission off. This cult is not fooling the RC, they see right through it.
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Many thanks to Simon. This RC Commission is the 'magnum opus'
by Esse quam videri inthis is when all the pieces of the puzzle come together.
many thanks to simon for creating a forum which allows us to get a clear sense of what is happening.
without this forum i would still be wandering in the wilderness.
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ToesUp
Yes, Thank you Simon. This forum has helped us laugh, heal and vent. I have felt more of a brotherhood on this forum with you folks, then I ever did at the kingdom hall! -
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I sent this to Angus Stewart this morning (Easter Standard Time)
by Viviane ini just sent this email to angus stewart:.
i hope this email finds you well.
i would like to say thank you for your work on the royal commission, particularly in your handling of the jehovah's witnesses elders and experts during questioning.
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ToesUp
Viviane - great follow-up response. Your email got his attention! -
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Samuel Herd 3 min video - the most misogynistic words I ever heard from a "godly man"
by paradisebeauty inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?t=72&v=9vvqxf9uwu0.
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ToesUp
This is how most JW men feel. Barbarians!!! -
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More Inspiring Young Awakenings
by freemindfade ini just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.
these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.
more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.
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ToesUp
Oh God...I really feel old. They look so young. She's a doll. They look very happy together. So happy they got out young and together. Thanks for sharing this Freemindfade!
I hope they don't get sucked into another religion.
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They know the RC is going to be an issue: August Broadcast talk with Tony
by leavingonthenextplane inthey are told that persecution is coming and that all will see it.. they are told that there will be lies in the media about us.. they even give the old brother king interview about brothers being jailed.
the last sentence tony the tiger damn near screams at the camera to stay faithful you integrity keepers... he knows your fathers and husbands may be going to jail.
this talk is all about damage control.. .
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ToesUp
"Funny how he mentions that no matter what they do people will always point things out."
It's funny how that works...you abuse people and people always point it out. Hmm!
Hey Tony...people are pissed. You opened your BIG MOUTH during the Zone meeting (and you continue to run your mouth). The GB is getting exactly what they deserve.
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I sent this to Angus Stewart this morning (Easter Standard Time)
by Viviane ini just sent this email to angus stewart:.
i hope this email finds you well.
i would like to say thank you for your work on the royal commission, particularly in your handling of the jehovah's witnesses elders and experts during questioning.
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ToesUp
Viviane - Well done and Thank you. Your letter inspired me to send this letter to Mr. Stewart. This is from a personal family members experience.
Mr. Stewart,
I hope you doing well today. I just wanted to thank you for your excellent work and questioning of the Jehovah’s Witnesses in the past days of hearings.
You have done your home work and actually know more about this organization then most J.W’s. Since most of them have never seen ALL the elders and branch letters brought to the attention of this commission. Also, no regular member of the congregation would ever be allowed access to the Elders ”Shepherd the Flock of God” Book.
When a member of the congregation is asked to speak with the Elders. Many of them do not know the rules or the procedures, but the Elders do. It is a one sided process. I have a family member that took a problem to the Elders to be helped, within a few days a J.C. meeting was conducted and they walked out disfellowshipped. They were shocked, they thought they going to get comfort and consul from the bible. Instead they were kick out to fend for themselves. They had to beg and plead for over 2 year to be reinstated. Their crime, sleeping with their boy friend before they were married. She felt guilty and kept it quite for a few years after they were married. Then took it to the Elders.
This brings me to the one issue in the Flock book that really highlights the double standard of the Elders and the Watchtower’s men in power. Please refer to the Flock book page 38, par 19 and 20. The topic. If it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past. The information states if a elder has committed a wrong doing and some time has past (more than a few years ago). And the Elder has not come forward and reported his wrongdoing to the body of Elders (he hid his sin). Well since some time has past, he can remain an elder? This is a get out jail free card given to the men in power and not to the regular members of the congregation. My family member was D.F’d, if she was a male and an Elder, she could have kept her wrong doing secret for a few years, then confessed, and still continue to serve as an active Elder in Judgement of others.
It would be wonderful if you could use this information in your case to highlight and broadcast this information so ALL of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the general public would know what really goes on behind closed doors.
Thank you for your time.
I must remain anonymous or I will be removed from the Congregation for my views and expressing them.
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ToesUp
The elder arrangement has been in place since the early 70's. Perhaps the GB will use this RC outcome to eliminate the elder arrangement or make drastic changes. After all, it is becoming a huge liability to the org and less brothers are reaching out. No Elders, No more J.C's. No need for big service dept. at the branches. It's a money saving idea!