Posts by ToesUp

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Dinner plans canceled because "I need to talk to the elders". Huh?

by Darkknight757 in

so this past week the wife and i have received several phone calls and text messages from our old hall.

we were also invited out to dinner to catch up with some old friends.

an hour before dinner this guys wife messaged my wife and said that she "can't wait for tonight!!

ToesUp

Sorry they did that to you. They don't deserve your company. They are not your friends and I would let them know that. If they can be rude, I believe you have the same right. Go get em!

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New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)

by Danni Jackson in

i discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.

you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.

basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.

ToesUp

"this is my first experience of hypocrisy in the truth."

Hold on to your hat...it WILL NOT be your last. Hypocrisy is what lead our family out of what you call "the truth."

I hate to be harsh but sorry, it's just my way. If they screw you over once they have not qualms about doing it again.

This is a hateful cult you have joined. If you don't believe me, just stop attending. They will drop you like a bad habit. Nice people, but only if you tow the JW line.

Best advise I can give you is .....RUN LIKE HELL!

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what are your thoughts on this quote from the elders book?

by aboveusonlysky in

'in order to extend mercy, the committee must be convinced that the wrongdoer has a changed heart condition and that he has a zeal to right the wrong and is absolutely determined to avoid it in the future.'.

shepherd the flock page 91. i remember this is one of the first things that concerned me as an elder because it seemed to sound like a person is guilty until proven innocent rather than 'love believes all things', especially given the word 'convinced' appears in bold.. then in a training video one elder said something like 'unless we are convinced of repentance the shepherd the flock book says we must disfellowship'.

that was the begining of the end for me as i thought surely true christians would reason the other way round and show mercy wherever possible.. any thoughts?.

ToesUp

Iown Mylife

I sent you a pm.

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CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

by StarTrekAngel in

so that was a "shocker".

i was not able to attend the meeting.

i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

ToesUp

Great news! No growth!

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Why cant Judicial Committees be taped?

by HereIgo in

i have never understood this.

was it because of legal reasons?

i cant think of any other reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but i know the elders ask you repeatedly that you are not taping.

ToesUp

For the same reason you can not have anyone else present during a JC. No witnesses! They know they have stuff that can bite them in the a**. The child abuse scandal and their homophobic attitude will eventually bite them. Coming Soon!

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Lett is such a comedian..

by Festus in

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friends

cant help it but in this video - "win the inner struggle" - during the first minute he points to his head with his index finger.

and i was just waiting him to shout out loco loudly.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201609_1_video.

and those facial expressions..sweet jesus!.

ToesUp

Ewww...that's 9+ minutes I will never get back. At least I had a good laugh! What a bufoon!

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Anionted mom says Jehovah may ask her to kill all her family!!

by Witness 007 in

yes my holy anionted mom who has cancer is concerned that the loving god jehovah may ask her in heaven to destroy here non believer family including her 5 year old grandchild during armagedon....how messed up are these crazy people!!?

?.

ToesUp

Looks like some of these "loving Christians" are looking forward to putting an end to their non JW family. Disturbing!

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Elder asking for help

by untruth in

this is my first time posting on here so i’m not sure where to start.

i’m trying to keep it as short as possible since i could expand much more.

i’ve been in the process of waking up in the last year and a half.

ToesUp

Wow...I don't know how you current Elders do the "pretend" thing. I have a hard time just driving by a KH. I has to be tough and I admire your patience.

I agree with many who have told you to take it slow. Mention things here and there and hopefully you will be able to make some progress with her.

It is topics like this that make me wonder how many Elders and others are out there who don't believe this crock any more.We have been out for 3 years but it seems more and more are waking up to the lies.

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Spain 2016-10-03 BOE Re: Minors

by wifibandit in

october 3, 2016 to the bodies of elders re: minors.

3 de octubre de 2016 a los cuerpos de ancianos asunto: menores de edad.

ToesUp

"They want to protect the elders and protect the organisation. What they should be wanting to protect are the children, and Jehovah's name. A very revealing sentence."
This was my exact 1st thought when I read this letter. It is all about WT. VERY revealing!

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