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Posts by ToesUp
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Special Talks now via video
by AverageJoe1 intired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?
well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).
here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.
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Saying hello for first time
by pimojw ini have been sneakily looking at this forum, almost every day, ever since it began!
it has taken me till now to actually register and contribute.
(actually i did register with a different name in the beginning but never commented).. i am a pimo elder with a fairly long history of senior "positions" in the organization.
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ToesUp
"I am happier than I ever was whilst being an "uber dub"
Welcome! We are happier out than we ever were in. My spouse and I are born ins and faded 4 years ago. We have been told our life will now fail because we left the org. Not so, freedom is fantastic.
We don't know what to believe anymore either. It's tough to realize everything you have been taught is not true.
This forum has been a great help to us. We hope it will be for you as well.
Move slow. You will be surprised where you may be mentally in a year or two. We are in a totally different place than were we were 4 years ago.
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New "Annointed" Brother In My Old Hall...
by pale.emperor ini've only just stopped laughing.. in my old hall there's a brother who's now claiming to be of the anointed.. he's 28.. i do wonder if he's doing this for attention, if he's awake and messing with them, or if he really is that deluded.
when i was in he was an ms. which surprised even me because only a year earlier than that he was "a bit of a lad", is rubbish at talks and relies on his elder uncle to get him out of trouble all the time.. i guess this now means he's get his pick of jw sisters.
he's been after the same one as the rest of his peers since 2014..
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ToesUp
We had a "brother" that claimed to be of the anointed. Uber dub family. They moved away several years ago. Now he and his family can be found on Facebook in front of their Christmas tree. You just can't make this stuff up. lol
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New "Annointed" Brother In My Old Hall...
by pale.emperor ini've only just stopped laughing.. in my old hall there's a brother who's now claiming to be of the anointed.. he's 28.. i do wonder if he's doing this for attention, if he's awake and messing with them, or if he really is that deluded.
when i was in he was an ms. which surprised even me because only a year earlier than that he was "a bit of a lad", is rubbish at talks and relies on his elder uncle to get him out of trouble all the time.. i guess this now means he's get his pick of jw sisters.
he's been after the same one as the rest of his peers since 2014..
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ToesUp
And I'm the Queen of England! Lol Another JW misfit! Laughable!!!!
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My Father has brandished me with the "APOSTATE" word for talking about the BIBLE!
by stuckinarut2 inso after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.
"don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".
i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.
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ToesUp
Great comments Vidiot! I loved your hypothetical. Never thought of using that. I always appreciate your posts. Thank you
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The Golden rule (Matt 7:12) - Do JW's apply it?
by doubtfull1799 inthere is no doubt (in my mind at least from my own personal experience) that in day to day matters most witnesses are genuinely loving and kind (or "nice") people (though their indoctrination and fundamentalist mentality often inhibits their natural kindness and tolerance and often gets in the way of fulling showing it).
however i would like to put the case that when it comes to their ministry and theological/scientific discussion of any type, they fail to apply even the most basic of bible principles that they claim to espouse - the golden rule!
here is what occurred to me.... some things jw's would like men to do to them:.
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ToesUp
"most witnesses are genuinely loving and kind (or "nice") people (though their indoctrination and fundamentalist mentality often inhibits their natural kindness and tolerance and often gets in the way of fulling showing it)."
Only when you are towing the company line. Once you decide to no longer participate in the cult, you are as good as dead. Conditional love all the way!!!
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Circuit leasing is expanding
by DazedAndConfused ini don't have time to look up a post that showed that the society has a circuit leasing site...........so here we go.
lol.
i looked up circuit leasing in my program "copernic" (ah what a wonderful thing) and i came up with a page that shows that not only are they in grand rapids, mi but they are also in 4 other states.
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ToesUp
LURKERS: VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS! IF WATCHTOWER IS GOING TO HOLD YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY HOSTAGE IF YOU LEAVE! HIT WATCHTOWER WHERE IT HURTS! THEY LOVE MONEY!
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Disfellowshipped in Absentia
by HereIgo ini have heard of this happening before, but how often?
its pretty rare it seems.
i have often wondered if the elders would go this route with me since they knew i was actively sinning, but as far as i know, no jc was ever formed.
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ToesUp
We have decided if the Elders contact us for a JC, we will request our attorney be present. Any announcement made about us will be sent to an attorney. I will let them know that. From what we understand, they will leave you alone once you threaten legal action. If any on here have done this, let us know how it worked for you.
I believe WT has a lot to worry about with the child abuse issues BUT I think eventually they are going to have to contend with those who seek legal advice as well. There is a storm brewing with the EX JW community!
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My Father has brandished me with the "APOSTATE" word for talking about the BIBLE!
by stuckinarut2 inso after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.
"don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".
i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.
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ToesUp
"I didn't press her to break her promise, but I did ask her, "could you find any flaws in his logic?"
She paused a moment, but conceded that no, she could not."
I believe that there are more people than we can imagine that feel the way your friend does. They can see it. I have a friend that I confided in and he agreed with everything I said but ended the conversation that..."if you do not return, you are going to die." That fear gets em every time. The social part of the cult is just something others can not give up. They just can NOT "cross over", no matter how logical you are. Crazy!
I actually quit trying. I found myself getting so frustrated. My spouse and I concluded that they will have to figure it out like we did. It is just not worth the frustration. Now we use that time to enjoy life. It's short!
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"Let It Go" describes leaving the immediate reality and path of leaving JWs
by Bad_Wolf ini was at disney and when the song was on for a show it seemed to describe one leaving.
here are lyrics and my thoughts in ().
the snow glows white on the mountain tonightnot a footprint to be seen.a kingdom of isolation, (immediate isolation when entire social network cut off and shuns)and it looks like i'm the queen (only one alone)the wind is howling like this swirling storm insidecouldn't keep it in;heaven knows i've tried (start of waking up to break free of jw cult).
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ToesUp
Yes...my spouse and I sing part of that song to each other sometimes. If you don't"let it go" things will drive you nuts!!!