Constructive criticism is better than direct attacks on someone who more than likely is fighting their own inner feelings to abandon a well entrenched fear and subsequent mental healing.
Just my thoughts. Good looking out Vidiot.
Tenacious
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Active JW's and JW Lurkers- Especially JW Defenders and Believers: A Few Questions For You
by OnTheWayOut inwhile there are not too many currently defending the watchtower in this discussion forum, it happens from time to time.
and quite often, there may be new people and lurkers reading these discussions.
i just wanted you to ponder these questions.
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WT Society holds EXTREME Responsibility for 1975 and False Expectations
by flipper inhowever- many jw's who have come into the jw organization from like 1985 forward virtually may have no knowledge of the wt society's 1975 debacle and false predictions of the end times or armageddon predictions.
just like in in the book 1984 by george orwell the wt society has a way of not only erasing it's history so no newer witnesses will be aware of their false predictions, but also they are re-writing their history as if those false predictions never happened.. so for those of you here who may have never read or heard of how whipped up into an emotional frenzy witnesses were in the years just before 1975 by the wt society claiming the end was any day now- this threads for you.
to see the pressure that was put on jw's by the wt society to get rid of everything before " armageddon " .
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Tenacious
"TENACIOUS- Good point. The WT Society's EXTREME responsibility about deceiving it's JW members regarding a fake " time of the end " - becomes much more irresponsible as the years pass by with nothing ever happening. 8 million people are being duped and deceived into believing something that will NEVER happen while giving their lives to a criminal , fraudulent organization like the WT Society. It's disgusting, especially for older people in their 80's or 90's who have wasted their whole lives living for a fantasy or pipedream . Peace out, Mr. Flipper"
Yes indeed Mr. Flipper. I'm still trying to get my wife and daughter to realize the far reaching impact the WT has on so many unsuspecting and many sincere Christians.
I just wish she would wake up tomorrow morning and realize what she's really a part of. I need patience and determination.
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Help with Magazine Article Regarding 1975 and Jesus
by Tenacious inhello to all.. i need help finding a quote written in an article not sure if it was awake or watchtower.. it may have been the years 68' or 69 but i remember distinctly that it mentioned 1975 was approaching very quickly and that it was not time to be fooling around with jesus' words about no one knowing the date or the hour.. thanks!.
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Never mind guys, I actually found it. It's the 1968 August 15 Watchtower under the heading "1975!...And Far Beyond!
Here's the actual quote:
"One thing is absolutely certain, Bible chronology reinforced with fulfilled Bible prophecy shows that six thousand years of man’s existence will soon be up, yes, within this generation! (Matt. 24:34) This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. Make no mistake, it is sufficient that the Father himself knows both the “day and hour”!"
The highlighted part is the perhaps the most incredible words I have ever seen come out of Brooklyn. There's actually no words to describe this.
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Help with Magazine Article Regarding 1975 and Jesus
by Tenacious inhello to all.. i need help finding a quote written in an article not sure if it was awake or watchtower.. it may have been the years 68' or 69 but i remember distinctly that it mentioned 1975 was approaching very quickly and that it was not time to be fooling around with jesus' words about no one knowing the date or the hour.. thanks!.
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Hello to all.
I need help finding a quote written in an article not sure if it was Awake or Watchtower.
It may have been the years 68' or 69 but I remember distinctly that it mentioned 1975 was approaching very quickly and that it was not time to be fooling around with Jesus' words about no one knowing the date or the hour.
Thanks!
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Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation
by ToesUp ina close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.
visit.
this occurred 3 months ago.
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Tenacious
Sounds like it may have been a money issue coupled with a lack of JC action where the WTS can be held legally.
The WTS has probably made it known to all of their CO's that money is what matters and spirituality comes a distant second.
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Has Anyone See The Giver, and If so, Do you Relate It to the Watch Tower?
by jamiebowers ini just watched it on dvd, and holy cow, i can see so many similarities to the watch tower!
i don't want to give anythng away for those who would like to see it, but i really wish the way it ended was a possibility in watch tower world..
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Tenacious
Haven't seen it but I heard it was a good movie.
I've watched Maze Runner and the similarities to the WT is eerie to say the least.
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3 JWs injured whilst Cart Witnessing
by Listener inhttps://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/25697590/three-injured-as-car-hits-park-bench/.
an elderly driver crashed into a park bench in mandurah, western australia today where 3 jws were sitting.
they had set up their jw cart and their literature was also strewn across the ground.. one of the jws was seriously injured with head injuries.. what a freak accident this is.. .
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Tenacious
Tenacious, get a grip on yourself. If you are unable to see the finer point that everyone is making in this case and the other cases, do not comment!
Seriously?
What, don't think I'm fully aware of what the WT attributes to angelic protection while doing Jehovah's will?
That fine point?
And what's with the obvious tone of your message to me?
Am I supposed to apologize to the thread and especially to you for making a valid point on the importance of maintaining our humanity while exposing the WT?
Can you even tell the difference of the point I was trying to make before making the accusation?
Am I supposed to make sense of your convoluted way of you not being able to discern the point I was trying to make?
I strongly suggest you don't jump to conclusions and, at the very least, try using your observational skills to assess before going off half-cocked.
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Finally Gave My First Anti-Witness After 11 Years
by new light inhello one and all.. the local jws had a booth set up at my university today and something just came over me.
i went to a computer, found a list of failed prophecies, printed and stapled it, and walked over to the middle aged woman and the 10-ish years old girl.
the woman said "if you are interested in anything, take it for free.
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Tenacious
When members see it in black and white with WT references it makes a big difference. Good going, hopefully she can save that poor 10 yr old.
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8 Year Old Getting Baptized!
by Atlantis ineight year old getting baptized!
(from a jw site.
this 8 year old sister was the youngest of the 31 who were baptized at a regional convention in bogo city, cebu, philippines on the weekend.
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Tenacious
It's sad that her parents do not realize the control they are under in allowing and even blessing this tragic event.
This little girl's mind is yet to be fully developed yet Jehovah is allowing her to dedicate her life to him?
Jesus was baptized until he was 30!!
30!!! The WTS is certainly hitting new lows.
The mindless saps will probably shed a tear or two when they announce her age.
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Samuel Herd misogyny ... Does anyone know the background of this video?
by Letts Party inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba.
samuel herd saying things i never thought possible from a gb member.. does anyone know the background?
who was this talk directed to?
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Tenacious
This dumb bastard made a reference in the recent zone meeting that when he visited a local Hall the brothers lacked a show of respect. He goes on to say that it was some kids that waited on him in the parking lot as he rolled in that stood there in the cold to welcome him. He said other brothers could learn a lot from these kids. What arrogance!!
I made a comment loud enough for others to hear regarding the arrogance of this prick.
What a lack of humility for this pretentious self-serving aggrandizing maggot.