Posts by Tenacious

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Coming to terms with the Watchtower experience

by Lee Elder in

it is a challenge coming to terms with your experience as a jehovah's witness.

if you were born and raised as a jw, and your parents were true believers, the impact on your life is profound, lasting, and largely negative.

in some cases quite abusive emotionally, spiritually, financially, educationally and yes, even sexually.. i recently watched "trumbo", and was quite moved by dalton trumbo's speech to the screen writers guild in 1970. here is an excerpt that i think is quite relevant to this topic:.

Tenacious

@ OP - I sincerely appreciate the information you have shared with us all but I have to respectfully disagree with you.

If you listen to talks and commentary from the GB one can see that they are deliberate in their use of specific phrases that are used to elicit a specific physiological and psychological response. Simply speaking, they are using mind conditioning techniques on the members. Now the question begs, do they write their own speeches or is there someone else behind the curtain we cannot see?

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How My Husband Helped Me See TTATT

by corruptgirl in

jw
friends

i wanted to write my experience on how my husband helped me see the ttatt (the truth about the truth).

first, let me mention that he wrote his own experience a couple months ago under the name sanchy.

for his story please click here….. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5148261828526080/walking-thin-line-resigning-elder

Tenacious

He never criticized or put down the organization, GB, elders, etc. Very important since one is so sensitive to that subject when you believe they are directed by Jehovah.

This is very, very important. Since the member is not able to distinguish or separate God from the Org. this is crucial to them even listening.

I hope the best for you all, and I hope you all still keep your faith in God.

Sad to say but you won't find any sympathy for this comment here. The majority of this forum, with all due respect, have tossed the baby out with the bathwater.

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New Light - Two Sticks in Ezekiel - July 2016 Watchtower

by Listener in

ezekiel 37:15-17 prophesies about two sticks being joined together to become 1. one stick represented the two tribe kingdom of judah and the other stick represented the 10 tribe of israel (ephraim).

the article explains how the coming together of these two sticks meant the reuniting of these tribes in 537 bce.the modern day fulfillment was previously taught to mean that the anointed had once again come together in unity in these last days.the july watchtower now explains that one stick, the stick of judah, represents the anointed and the other stick, the stick of ephraim, represents the other sheep.

they further explain that since 1919 god's people have gradually reunited to become one flock.they are now saying that the other sheep are represented by 10 tribes of israel.

Tenacious

It seems like they are preparing the "other sheep" to start partaking of Christ's symbolic body, the bread and wine, being that to continue to do otherwise would invalidate John's words and the fact that we are ALL part of the Christian Congregation which is represented by the body of Christ.

The GB is finally grasping they are on the symbolic Titanic and unless they start coming clean (SOS call, giving everyone a life preserver, etc.) the ship will flounder. And it will, along with the captain and crew (GB, their helpers, committee's, committee helpers, CO's, etc.).

It's too late for them as they have deceived far too many sincere people looking for Truth. Not only did they deceive but they were deliberate in their schemes and deceits. This is easily proven by their psychological tactics on the friends.

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Debela--Here are those videos you wanted!

by Atlantis in

videos requested:.. you became so beloved to us.. http://we.tl/xytu3oqfvi.

.. congregation presentation instruction videos/memorial etc.. .. 1. http://we.tl/cn2wnqayzh.

.. 2. http://we.tl/lidpxszhjb.

Tenacious

Thank you. As always, it's a pleasure doing business with youse.

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This was in 2011 (when you get it)

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

it's not the rings... that was highlighted for a different reason..

Tenacious

Losch is a power hungry maggot no different than corrupt politicians and state men.

Without the WT Losch and his fellow cronies are nothing more than stooges in good suits.

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lf the paradise earth is real would you want to live there?

by atomant in

l know l would.anyone that says no is kidding themselves.just imagine going up to the hole of a cobra and patting it on the head like a pet.or running like a deer through the woods.who knows we might grows wings and be able to fly as well.food for thought.

Tenacious

@ OP - the majority of people on this forum are beyond imagination or anything remotely related to the JW's. Myself included yet I can definitely envision myself in a paradise earth.

Fact is NO ONE wants to die no matter what they claim. That includes the most ardent supporters of evolution and anything anti-biblical. It's not in our nature to choose death over life.

Every single person that signed up for this forum will never choose death over life.

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Talking to a wall

by ivanatahan in

jw
friends

why must these people be figurative walls when talking about the lies of the jw cult?.

the other day, i had a conversation with my mother.

we started talking about the election and how the candidates differ (me being a supporter of bernie).

Tenacious

In the end she told me she doesn't care about what the organization does or has done, and that what's important is "God" and what the Bible says

This statement is key to understanding why she doesn't grasp or understand the fact that the GB are lying sinister hypocrites.

Simply speaking, due to the repetitive exposure to witness teachings, in her mind, God and the GB are the same entity. So when she is shown concrete proof that the GB lies, minsterprets, deceives, etc., because her mind only understands them to BE Jehovah God, it will automatically protect itself by going into a state of denial in order to protect itself by something (the truth) to hard to even contemplate. The harder you push the more defensive she will get up to the point of violence.

This is a very broad overview of the psychological condition many witnesses suffer from when they are confronted with the truth. When they experience this in field service, they just label people apostates and be done with it, onto to the next house. It's actually quite fascinating to see this happen.

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The KEY WORD in Isaiah 44:25-26 is "Predictions" and the apostles NEVER made any predictions setting dates.

by Greybeard in

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friends

isaiah 44:25-26, i am frustrating the signs of the empty talkers, and i am the one who makes diviners act like fools; the one confounding the wise men and turning their knowledge into foolishness; the one making the word of his servant come true and completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers.

the record shows your words and many predictions did not come true.

again, the key word in isaiah 44:25-26 is "predictions" and the apostles never made any predictions ever.

Tenacious

Thanks for the "food" as it washes down nice and smooth. Still getting that vomit taste from the witnesses out of my system.

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Undercover Judicial Hearing - Youtube

by someDUDEinAsmallCubicalSomewhereOverTheRAINBOX in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34xtdsx_krc.

Tenacious

I had watched this one. Son of Thunder handled himself very well and defended his beliefs like a Boss!

I almost threw my laptop out the window when that maggot elder who is not within range of the camera starts in with his "you know I've been sitting here .......and not once have you said the name Jehovah..." I caught my self yelling, irrelevant!!! No bearing on the matter at hand!!! These maggots truly believe they speak for God. Incredible!!

I danced a jig every time he made them look stupid and foolish. That's why I'd recommend the video to anyone and everyone!

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Re: New Songs for Memorial

by pixel in

to all congregations.

re: new songs for memorial.

dear brothers:.

Tenacious

I don't believe things are what they appear.

The WT does these kinds of things with a purpose in mind. Whether it be further mind conditioning, propagandizing, or plain old subconscious subliminal messaging.

There is a plan behind their facade of being spiritual.

These ******* are sinister if anything. I've been documenting them for a while now and they'll soon be exposed in the literary world. The physical literary world and that includes digital media.