Posts by Tenacious

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Do you believe what the Bible teaches? If "yes", why? If "no", why?

by Tenacious in

if you do believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.

if you don't believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.

on a personal note, there are many things that i can't help but notice that coincide with what the apostle paul wrote to timothy in his second letter chapter 3 regarding tough times:.

Tenacious

I appreciate everyone's input. Humans have made incredible strives in the past 100 years when compared with the past 1,000 years. There's no disputing that scientific and technological breakthroughs have made the world a much better place to live in and the average human lifespan has increased tremendously.

The words of Paul resonate with me when statistically speaking, the wars that Jesus describes in the gospels, the violence that is so prevalent today as opposed to 50 years ago. Most kids growing up today are much more independent and rebellious with parents. Corporate greed has skyrocketed and while many third world countries have improved dramatically, there are still millions of people who live in poverty and die hungry.

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Do you believe what the Bible teaches? If "yes", why? If "no", why?

by Tenacious in

if you do believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.

if you don't believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.

on a personal note, there are many things that i can't help but notice that coincide with what the apostle paul wrote to timothy in his second letter chapter 3 regarding tough times:.

Tenacious

If you do believe in the Bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?

If you don't believe in the Bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?

On a personal note, there are many things that I can't help but notice that coincide with what the Apostle Paul wrote to Timothy in his second letter chapter 3 regarding tough times:

3 But understand this, that in the last days difficult times will come. 2 For people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unloving, irreconcilable, slanderers, without self-control, savage, opposed to what is good, 4 treacherous, reckless, conceited, loving pleasure rather than loving God. 5 They will maintain the outward appearance of religion but will have repudiated its power. So avoid people like these. (New English Translation)

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Governing Body Helpers ----- Who are they? Are they future GB in the making?

by adjusted knowledge in

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so after nearly 15 to 19 years of not attending a convention, i can't recall exactly, i went to one last year.

the brother giving the talk was from bethel and was introduced as a helper of the governing body.

it was a title i never heard of before.

Tenacious

Matthew 23:1-12 is the best way to describe how the GB has once again surpassed what is written.

Sometimes announcing a brother's resume is longer than the part itself.

Who gives a shit how many years you've been pioneering, been a sniff-ass for the GB, have lived at Bethel, or last had a rectal exam!

It's become a dog-and-pony show.

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If you're bothered by god murdering innocent children, you must have a "critical heart"

by OneEyedJoe in

this week's book study contains this gem:.

the way in which the bible is written serves to test what is in our heart.

hebrews 4:12 says: the word [or, message] of god is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit .

Tenacious

The more I read the Bible specially the letters Paul wrote and contrast them with the teachings of Jesus many contradictions come to the surface.

I'm sure I could cross reference the contradictions and settle the intended message.

The WTS can take one text out of context and make it law!

I'm sure when witnesses read the entire Bible and come across verses that don't quite correlate with the "current truth" they simply ignore it and wait for that next WT article.

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MAJOR DOCTRINE CHANGE IN 1/15/2014 WT ON GENERATION TEACHING

by EndofMysteries in

the generation scripture no longer is speaking about 'the end'.

i'll quote it...... side note: tons of lies in this article, i'll point out at the end of the post.

"yet, jesus words at matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of "this generation will by no means pass away" before seeing the start of the great tribulation.".

Tenacious

And what this means to a dub is just one thing...the Big A is right here...on the brink...they should be getting super excited about this article...

I'm gonna get excited......when I start seeing the WTS cash payouts on all their pending pedophilia lawsuits. Hopefully their bullcrap will become unsustainable.

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No longer an MS! Hooray...finally!

by stuckinarut2 in

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friends

well, it's finally happened!.

im no longer an ms.. as many would know from our chats via this forum, i've seen it coming for a while....and while the way it was done stinks, i'm really happy to finally be free!.

(would love to share more details...i will do in time...or perhaps a pm would be best).

Tenacious

...and while the way it was done stinks,....

The GB is too stupid and quite frankly too damn big headed to actually have protocols in place for these type of matters. They are far removed from the reality of things on the local level. They could care less if someone's feelings are hurt so long as the deed is done. And spirituality is a distant second. It's freaking ridiculous.

Congratulations and move on and live your life to the fullest and continue doing so. While those idiots are stuck in a rut, no pun intended, you are free to do, come and go as you please, and not bogged down by assignments, privileges and all that other crap that contributes to people remaining psychologically trapped.

Salute!!!

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Looking for Truth with a capital "T"?

by Terry in

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friends

stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.

nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.

can go skipping down the road with a smile!.

Tenacious

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I was invited to the Kingdom Hall and nobody greeted after five meetings

by Trailer Park Pioneer in

"i felt like it was "bait and switch", no "loving brotherhood :(?".

interesting question posted on yahoo, the problem is witnesses are not telling the truth.

how many times did you experience people not saying anything after some prolonged illness or separation from the kingdom hall for work reasons?

Tenacious

It's standard protocol to avoid those people who have been absent regardless of why.

In ANY congregation you will usually find the different set of crews:

1. Ass Kissing Crew

2. Gossip Crew

3. Spiritual Crew

4. Hateful Crew

5. Backstabbing Crew

6. Snobby Crew

In the end, they are all cut from the same stupid cloth.

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Post 7: Hopefully the last letter I recieve

by sosoconfused in

i think my mother has lost it.

i really do and i am in fear that she is literally losing touch with reality to some degree.. even my father is telling me that her responses to me are growing weirded:.

the scriptures tell us that we can be wrathful.......but don't sin.

Tenacious

I'm sorry that we, that have seen the reality of the WTS, still have to suffer the consequences and negative behavior of family members who still believe the bull.

I hope you can find comfort and love within your own immediate family such as your spouse and children.

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Negative forum behavior

by Simon in

another good codinghorror blog entry perfectly describes some people's online behaviour and an approach to handling it.

i'll post part of it below but to summarize, these tend to be behaviours that don't violate any specific rules as such as the people doing it try to carefully skate just up to the line but they are nevertheless disruptive and we're not going to tolerate them on this site.

if you are here to do these things then this isn't the site for you - move along, find someplace else on the internet to inhabit.. hate is easy to recognize.

Tenacious

Simon, I appreciate your approach to this pervasive problem that has brought down other forums.

I just hope you find the time to moderate and apply these rules where applicable regardless of seniority or personal connection.

Best. T