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  We're not trying to convert you

  by jws in

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  recently i saw a link to an article from the st. petersburg times (one of these links on the side of this forum to sometimes old articles).

  it was an article about jws and their preaching work.

  imo, middle to favorable.. but the one thing was from a door where the jws are saying they're not here to convert anyone, they just want to share a scripture.. what sort of bs is this?

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  I remember repeating this line from the Reasoning book.

  Thinking back now I don't know how I ever said it with a straight face.

  I remember either reading somewhere or someone telling me that it was right to say this to the householder and that we were being truthful. And that they would realize that we teach the bible truths. How?

  By reading the householder a key text, they would be attracted to our message.

  The text read was always what I would call a 'carrot' text, no illness, panda hugging, resurrection, anything BUT what I should have been telling them..... the Good News of the Christ!

  It's incredible what a person will do once they've been deeply indoctrinated i.e. Jonestown, Waco.
  
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  vent: Got into it this morning with my wife agian. younger son wants to go to a B-day, i said he could...she turned cult.

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  yep, he told her that he wants to go a friends b-day...keep in mind it's not until december.

  well anyway i told her i didn't mind if he did and i would take him.

  yep, enter cult mode.....i hate this freaking cult.

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  Using the JW logic, you are the head of your household whether you've ceased to be a JW or not. Does not matter and your wife needs to submit to you and respect your decision.

  You can quote her 1 Corinthians 7:12-16 regarding unbelievers. LOL
  
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  I feel great today!

  by Dubby in

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  for years i denied myself the thing i loved to do the most to be a good jw.

  i love to ride off-road motorcycles.

  so, i am going to indulge myself and get a new dirt bike.. i love to see god's creation from the vantage point of a motorcycle on a mountain top.

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  Oh I remember those lines!

  "Don't worry preach now and in paradise you'll be able to travel the world."

  I used to hear brothers and sisters putting off orthodontics, weight loss, and body deformities until "paradise".......

  ........30 years later, they are still waiting.

  They depended so much on the predictions of the Society and still nothing.

  Forget that!
  
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  These guys just freak me out!

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, i didnt think anything about it.

  but last night some friends from across the city called me up and said that the co was visiting their hall and in his talk he said that the society is getting geared up for a massive kingdom hall and assembly hall construction project worldwide next year.

  they told the publishers; "get ready".

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  John Aquila wrote:
  

  They told the publishers; "GET READY....."

  "..... because we are coming and not using Vaseline."
  
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  heartbroken and not sure what to do...

  by Khaleesi in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i don't know what to do.... i married last year and things have been very rocky.

  we dated for 4 years and did have normal issues but always had a lingering doubt something was just not right in our relationship-behavior to be more specific, he is not a jw, but i am.

  yes i know i married outside the "lord" but after my first marriage to a jw ended in divorce for physical abuse, i was glad i didn't married another jw.

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  I'm sorry to hear about your troubles.

  Don't let anyone talk down to you for marrying a non-believer. We all make mistakes and are prone to continue making them. Who stand tall before God? No one!

  The very best advice I can give to you would be to first and foremost DO NOT GO NEAR ANY KINGDOM HALL. Sorry for the capital letters but I cannot stress this enough. You and I know what they will recommend you do (field service, pioneering, attend meetings, studying, etc.).

  Plan a date or a time to speak to him at home over a cup of tea, coffee, whatever, and pour your heart out to him about your concerns. Tell him you love him and want to make it work. If he is a non-believer do not push religion into the matter. Although you could read some Psalms and other texts as marital guides but nothing else and let him know so. Kinda like consulting a manual or reference book.

  Pray to Jehovah God and ask him to give you peace and tranquility and to help your marriage survive. If speaking with him does not help, try to find some counseling or a mediator. But don't worry yourself to death. Instead look to the positive side of your marriage and try to build on these.

  I'll be praying for you, your husband, and your home.
  
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  A new member

  by Kurteousmaximus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi... i am new and after nearly 20 years after being disassociated at 15 i would like to make contact with others who have similar difficulties.

  my mother was disfellowshipped shortly after my rebellion and had all ties with both her mother and brother cut and that remains the case.. just really hacked off with not being able to put things in the proper place in my life after all these years.

  for the record i don't know if i believe in god but am searching for some peace as i seem to self destruct on a regular basis.. any ideas anyone?.

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  Welcome Kurteous!

  Just take it slow and read through the different topics and experiences of the members. You'll get a lot of good information on how to proceed and live a good Christian life. If that's what you desire. If not, you'll also find information on how to just live life.

  Wish you all the best!
  
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  Hello to everybody!

  by John Free in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wanted to introduce myself.

  like many of you i was born-in, am married with one child.

  after 36 years of this cycle: doubts-thought stopping- suppression- indoctrination-cult mode i realised enough was enough.

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  Welcome! You are certainly one of the few that managed to pull this off.

  Congrats again! If you still believe in God, I would definitely encourage you to continue studying and reading of the Bible with your family.

  You can't blame Jehovah for those animals.
  
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  Need list of scriptures that Jesus is only means of salvation

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember a thread not long ago with all the scriptures.

  also one that we have to be witnesses to jesus.

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  @ Splash - that's exactly what came to mind when I saw this thread. LOL

  Just research The Searcher threads and you'll find more than plenty.

  The letters from Paul are full of these references as well.
  
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  Introducing...ME

  by Heartsafire in

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  long time lurker here.

  i'm a fifth gen born-in baptized jw.

  to say i've been struggling with doubts is an understatement.

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  Welcome Heartsafire!

  I also get the same response from spouse when I brought up negative things.

  Reason is they start to experience cognitive dissonance which can practically drive a person mad.

  You are in a safe, compassionate, caring, and sincere community now.

  Hey, isn't that supposed to be our Spiritual Paradise? But it's more like Nazi Germany.
  
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  Watchtowers million dollar scam

  by GeddyLee in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  back in the late eighties i was on the committee to build our cities new double kingdom hall so that all five halls would be under one roof.

  we needed to come up with five hundred thousand dollars to complete the new hall, so we had a kingdom hall fund drive where the local brothers would raise the needed funds.

  after two years we had collected the half million dollars, and guess where that money went????????

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  Tenacious

  Good thread! Nice find. Marked.