Posts by Tenacious

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Pagan Origins

by Illuminated in

why are jw's not allowed to do certain things because they have "pagan origins", yet the very same roof over their head and the the food they place into their mouth is purchased through money with pagan origins on it?

pagan symbolism is all over money.

so if the wt leaders are so against paganism, why are they insisting "jehovah's" earthly organization needs pagan money to sustain itself, yet disfellowshipping members if they cross the line into paganism?.

Tenacious

As Heaven previously mentioned, just about everything we use today has some form of origin in paganism. From the calendar months to days of the week to funeral flowers to wedding rings to bonfires, to money itself.

Some things are not practical to stop using due to their origins BUT I can clearly see the point made.

It's like shopping at Wal-Mart whose owners are Christian or some form thereof, and eating at In-N-Out Burger whose owner was a born-again Christian and initially used the business to spread the Gospel.

It's an interesting subject for sure.

Scripture says money is not bad but 'love' of money is. And early Christians definitely used money with insignia and idols on it.

I'm not defending the WTS, far, far from it, but there are just some things that cannot be avoided like money without causing a significant hardship.

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Call For Children To Get Baptised From CO

by freemindfade in

so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.

yesterday i went for the co's last talks.

older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.

Tenacious

What these Brooklyn maggots want is to trap another generation into their captive organization.

Guys, the best thing we can do is to warn brothers with families that their kids should wait until they have completely matured to make that all-important decision. Remind them that Jesus waited until he was 30 years old. And he was perfect!!

If Jehovah wanted children to be baptized Jesus would have been baptized at a much younger age.

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Anonymous posted RC account about JW sex abuse on their site!

by cultBgone in

sorry if this has already been posted but the fact that it's at the top of anonymous' "rights" section stopped me cold.

kudos to whichever exjw posted this!

http://anonhq.com/australian-jehovahs-witnesses-in-hot-seat-for-abuse/.

Tenacious

The hearings have already been held.

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counting time

by Sabin in

yesterday jw knocked on my door, i was sitting in the office with the window right next to it, they couldn't see me & i decided not to answer.

they stood there for what seemed ages & as i watched something hit me.

they were here only because they were on the territory.

Tenacious

Top Notch illustration Island Man.

Thanks.

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If Jehovah's Witnesses were a cereal, what would they be?

by Zoos in

cult flakes?.

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(welcome to the height of intellectual thread topics.

Tenacious

Honey Nut Cheerios

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We're not trying to convert you

by jws in

jw
friends

recently i saw a link to an article from the st. petersburg times (one of these links on the side of this forum to sometimes old articles).

it was an article about jws and their preaching work.

imo, middle to favorable.. but the one thing was from a door where the jws are saying they're not here to convert anyone, they just want to share a scripture.. what sort of bs is this?

Tenacious

I remember repeating this line from the Reasoning book.

Thinking back now I don't know how I ever said it with a straight face.

I remember either reading somewhere or someone telling me that it was right to say this to the householder and that we were being truthful. And that they would realize that we teach the bible truths. How?

By reading the householder a key text, they would be attracted to our message.

The text read was always what I would call a 'carrot' text, no illness, panda hugging, resurrection, anything BUT what I should have been telling them..... the Good News of the Christ!

It's incredible what a person will do once they've been deeply indoctrinated i.e. Jonestown, Waco.

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vent: Got into it this morning with my wife agian. younger son wants to go to a B-day, i said he could...she turned cult.

by goingthruthemotions in

yep, he told her that he wants to go a friends b-day...keep in mind it's not until december.

well anyway i told her i didn't mind if he did and i would take him.

yep, enter cult mode.....i hate this freaking cult.

Tenacious

Using the JW logic, you are the head of your household whether you've ceased to be a JW or not. Does not matter and your wife needs to submit to you and respect your decision.

You can quote her 1 Corinthians 7:12-16 regarding unbelievers. LOL

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I feel great today!

by Dubby in

jw
friends

for years i denied myself the thing i loved to do the most to be a good jw.

i love to ride off-road motorcycles.

so, i am going to indulge myself and get a new dirt bike.. i love to see god's creation from the vantage point of a motorcycle on a mountain top.

Tenacious

Oh I remember those lines!

"Don't worry preach now and in paradise you'll be able to travel the world."

I used to hear brothers and sisters putting off orthodontics, weight loss, and body deformities until "paradise".......

........30 years later, they are still waiting.

They depended so much on the predictions of the Society and still nothing.

Forget that!

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These guys just freak me out!

by John Aquila in

ok, i didnt think anything about it.

but last night some friends from across the city called me up and said that the co was visiting their hall and in his talk he said that the society is getting geared up for a massive kingdom hall and assembly hall construction project worldwide next year.

they told the publishers; "get ready".

Tenacious

John Aquila wrote:
They told the publishers; "GET READY....."

"..... because we are coming and not using Vaseline."

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heartbroken and not sure what to do...

by Khaleesi in

i don't know what to do.... i married last year and things have been very rocky.

we dated for 4 years and did have normal issues but always had a lingering doubt something was just not right in our relationship-behavior to be more specific, he is not a jw, but i am.

yes i know i married outside the "lord" but after my first marriage to a jw ended in divorce for physical abuse, i was glad i didn't married another jw.

Tenacious

I'm sorry to hear about your troubles.

Don't let anyone talk down to you for marrying a non-believer. We all make mistakes and are prone to continue making them. Who stand tall before God? No one!

The very best advice I can give to you would be to first and foremost DO NOT GO NEAR ANY KINGDOM HALL. Sorry for the capital letters but I cannot stress this enough. You and I know what they will recommend you do (field service, pioneering, attend meetings, studying, etc.).

Plan a date or a time to speak to him at home over a cup of tea, coffee, whatever, and pour your heart out to him about your concerns. Tell him you love him and want to make it work. If he is a non-believer do not push religion into the matter. Although you could read some Psalms and other texts as marital guides but nothing else and let him know so. Kinda like consulting a manual or reference book.

Pray to Jehovah God and ask him to give you peace and tranquility and to help your marriage survive. If speaking with him does not help, try to find some counseling or a mediator. But don't worry yourself to death. Instead look to the positive side of your marriage and try to build on these.

I'll be praying for you, your husband, and your home.