Posts by Tenacious

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Searching for those who "know" TTAT

by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

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friends

does anybody have any tips for conversation starters to covertly feel out someone in the cong that you suspect is a "knower" about ttat?.

any success or experiences to share?.

Tenacious

There really is no way of knowing by looking at someone. The way I can personally tell is by engaging different people with different topics and start mentioning things like 'new light' and arrangements that seem odd, etc. and then ask for their opinion. Of course if the person you are talking to is a die-hard JW they may turn you in but if they respect you enough to keep the convo to themselves then go ahead and give it a whirl.

I've never encountered someone who directly said something contrary to the newest teachings or arrangements. But I know of some brothers by having talked with them that they have reservations regarding certain arrangements and teachings.

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The Thief of Always

by YinzerDad in

prologue... .

a brief precursor about myself.

i've been lurking around for almost 2 years.

Tenacious

A very big welcome YinzerDad!

Your story mirrors mine and many, many members here.

We cannot get back our childhood. Even in JW promised Paradise, we cannot revert back to childhood and experience those little things and like you point out, the ability to become passionate about something that leads us to something bigger and better in life.

I look back at my childhood and Mom was the classic uneducated, struggling, and miserable person which is exactly what the JW's look for. The vulnerable! And therefore, I join you in regretting the fact that I was never afforded a truly free and normal childhood. Those that are on the outside looking in cannot possibly understand but you sum it up nicely when you write:

"What I can't get back is my childlike ability to imagine what I want to be when I grow up. Because that's what kids do. And it is a fundamental point in childhood development because that's when you develop a passion for something. It could be a passion for leadership, for sports... something. I was never afforded the opportunity to do that. Because the end was nigh."

I feel your pain Yinzer, I and many of us here. And I, like you also attended college. Hang in there. And live life. Live everyday like it's your last day. Live it for yourself. And live it for those that never got the opportunity to do so.

T.

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Does this fact in it`s own right , prove the Garden Of Eden story false to be no more than a fable ?

by smiddy in

thinking about life in general reflecting on the abundance of life on this planet , it became obvious to me that every living thing , those flying in the heavens ,living on the earth , or existing in the oceans , is all possible for one reason , and one reason only.. every living thing exists at the expense of the death of some other living thing , life and death go hand in hand.. the same is true even in the microscopic world .. every living thing feeds off some other unfortunate living thing.that`s nature at its most basic observation , but true.. what the noachian flood story overlooks is the vast amount of living marine life that existed and flourished and not influenced or affected by what supposedly went on , on land.. 99.9 % of all living creatures if not 100% live by the death of some other living creature and the same would have to be true in the garden of eden if it was to have existed in the first place .. no thing can live if it does not devour some other living thing .

a fact of life .. apologists are welcome to support god , by suggesting miraculous interventions by god that have no scriptual basis.

i guess any nature video of the animal kingdom , marine life in the oceans , or videos of the bird life , as in nature series should make this clear .. smiddy.

Tenacious

From a June 1, 2015 ScienceDaily.com article:

"In the beginning, there were simple chemicals. And they produced amino acids that eventually became the proteins necessary to create single cells. And the single cells became plants and animals. Recent research is revealing how the primordial soup created the amino acid building blocks, and there is widespread scientific consensus on the evolution from the first cell into plants and animals. But it's still a mystery how the building blocks were first assembled into the proteins that formed the machinery of all cells."

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Where's Mouthy?

by Village Idiot in

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friends

it's been a while since she's posted.

i'm hoping she's ok.. for those who are new here mouthy (grace) is our forum's adopted grandma.

she has been posting here since the beginning.

Tenacious

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Can you prove that WT policy of shunning is unscriptual? Will soon be discussing with somebody, give me all your ammo!

by EndofMysteries in

will soon be discussing w/ somebody still in about that.

i want to make sure i am not missing anything good.

so any scriptures, articles whether wt articles or secular about effects of shunning, etc, or your arguments against how wt interprets their scriptures, etc.

Tenacious

I've always wondered how Jesus could be so forgiving, so loving, so comforting, although he did say some things that were questionably mean (pearls before swine) and yet, Jehovah allowed rape, killing of children, and Paul would be unloving by isolating people from their own families which equates to mental anguish and abuse.

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Out of Control Flatbed Truck Crashes into Kingdom Hal

by oppostate in

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Tenacious

Somebody didn't get that comment on Sunday....LOL

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Hypothetical Question...

by JW_Rogue in

i was just thinking that the org has said lots of outrageous things over it's history and most jws just continue onward without a second thought.

so my question is what do you think would have to be said from the platform or wt to get people to get up and walk out immediately?

is it even possible?

Tenacious

The members have been physiologically conditioned enough to were the Society, I believe at times, has purposely said or printed material that borders on insanity just to check how well their level of 'training' has been accepted by the members.

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Last Days? Are you serious ....?

by Aleph in

believing we live in the last days?.

Tenacious

When the Society needs to pump up the members they'll start to throw out phrases like:

"Will this Memorial be our last?" - KM 3/14/14

"We are living in that season, the last days." - Watchtower 2014 1/15

"....we have before our very eyes this series of happenings of world-shaking magnitude, testifying that we are living in the last days!" - Watchtower 1950 2/1

"The last days of this wicked, abominable world are upon us, and we shall see the final end during this generation." - Watchtower 1950 3/15

These are just some "gems" that I was able to dig up.

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Feelings

by Garrett in

hello my dear friends,.

with the recent terror attacks on my capital, my emotions have been quite stirred and in turn my mind has been in constant motion.. i wanted to come here and give you a little update on my life.

i have officially moved on from the witnesses.

Tenacious

Garrett, keep moving forward and don't look back.

Just as this community helped you, you likewise, have helped those that needed help.

We are fortunate to have your contribution on this board.

I pray for you and the people in Paris. We mourn over the senseless killings perpetrated by this terrorist group.

T.

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Warwick Project Update Email

by wifibandit in

fwd from anon:.

dear brothers,.

we are happy to provide you with a brief progress update on the warwick project and explain how you can assist with a major adjustment recently approved in our construction schedule.

Tenacious

My goodness!

I need to contact my Construction Group to make sure I'm still a go!

Packing my bags as I type this.......