this jc from 1984 features a brother and his wife, who were evidently about to be df'd for apostasy.
but the brother knew his ttatt well.
the elders really couldn't muster any half-way convincing arguments to refute the damning facts on 607 and 1914. even 1975 was touched on.
Some enjoyable listening while at the gym!
Clearly, Rick and his wife researched their way out of the "truth". I am really surprised the elders let them talk and express their views - I wonder if any of those elders left the meeting with a few questions churning in their heads.
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Thanks all for your support and kind words and insight. I am sitting here now trying to figure out how to bring up how I’m feeling with the wife. It's making that first step that’s the hardest. I don’t know how she will take it. Some posters suggested starting out with the blood issue as she is pregnant and this would be a "legitimate" concern. I was thinking of writing her a letter and spelling things out. That way i can say everything on my mind and have the ability to pick my words wisely.
Any suggestions?
I dont want to come off as a crazy apostate.. :)
i just happened to hear about this through a long chain of communication.
i didn't know whether to believe it so i googled it and found the obituary notice.. philip blaylock.
posted yesterday november 21st, 2014. it is a sad day for all.
Sorry to hear about this, Magnum.
There were a few people in the org that I met over the years that always seemed out of place. They just seemed too smart and "normal" to stay with the religion.
I didnt know Phillip but this story got to me.
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
OneEyedJoe - Thanks for the link - very interesting.
Simon, Giordano, Sahs, thanks for the great advice
Thanks for the welcome Lisa.
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Ha, thanks rebel8!
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Skeeter,
I thought you had to baptized in order to use the KH for a wedding? Wait, just reread your post. Elders said hell no! Haha. Sorry to hear that. But, it sounds that you and your wife have made up your minds and are sticking with it. Good to hear. Grats on the baby.
Yes, my wife was very hurt. She wanted her dad to walk her down the aisle, which of course didnt happen. Yeah, the blood thing is one of the items i started thinking about with the baby on its way. The baby will have any medical procedure he/she needs and that won't be debated. If my wife needs any procedure involving blood, that will be a battle. I dont know how to bring that up, i havent really told her 100% that im done with the religion. I just stopped going to meetings and service a few weeks ago, though i rarely went out preaching anyway - always hated it.
But, the blood thing will be brought up as we get closer to the birth, just dont know how yet... how do you tell your wife and mother of your future child that you care about and love her so much that you want her to completely go against everything that has been shoved down her thoat since infancy and that she truly belives in her heart. Think that was a run-on sentence. :)
There was a forum on here that talked about the Awake mag from 1994 with children on the cover who died for listening to the GB freaks. It really made me sick to my stomach thinking that, in '94, i was a witness. I was a young teen and that could have been me or one of my friends. And for them to parade that around for the world to see is insane. I almost don't believe it and need to hold it in my hands to make it real.
But yeah, its going to be an issue and i am not looking forward to it.
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Captain,
I'm in my 30's. I stopped going to meetings when i was 17, but went off and on after 25 or so. They didnt attend the wedding because i wasnt babtised and she was, though, i was studying and attending meetings as far as they knew. But they would be supporting her decision to marry if they went. Wonder now if sisters marrying brothers that arent MS or elders will be boycotted. I bet some will take it to that level.
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Thank you all for your welcome and kind words.
Captain, good point on the marriage thing. Originally we were going to wait till i was dunked but I just never could get there. I actually ended things with her because of it, wrote her a letter detailing my doubts and disbeliefs, but we got back together and were married a few months later. None of our familes came to the wedding of course, they even tried to stop it. My sister called an elder friend of hers and told him are evil plans. He of course contacted my wife and tried to talk her our of marrying the devil. So yeah, she knew what she was getting into, as did I. The only item of negativity she had about the zone meeting was the 23 and servent marriage thingy. Guess that was a given since she married me. :)
Magnum, thanks! Ignorance is bliss they say and i defintley see it around me. I dont want to come across that i know it all, because I dont. I dont have the answers. But i want to have an open mind and that is where this religion draws the line.
One Eyed, one thing i have always been glad about is NOT gettting babtized. I love my family and it would have been horrible to been DF'd and have them disown me. I take it you arent DF'd?
every year on a certain thursday in november my family and close witness friends would get together, eat menudo ( hispanic stew) and other foods, watch football and then get dressed to go to the meeting.. sister so and so would bring her famous pie, bro and sister so and so would bring their gross punch and bro and sis so and so would bring mexican sweet bread.
sometimes we would go to "worldy" aunt's and pick up plates of turkey and fixins.. this was every year on a certain date, on a certain thursday in november.. this continued until my mom got alzheimers.
by that time i was married and had my own house.
Reminds me of my mom saying "happy day of your birth" and making me whatever i wanted for dinner that night. They will still call on that special day but never use the phrase "happy birthday", they will say, "Yay, you were born on this day". Or, " happy day you came into this world". Hilarious.
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Wanted to say hello to you all. I am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself. I was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of Jehovah.
I had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being J Dbs but just never could get it into my heart. I’ve tried. I would actually love to be like the peeps at the hall that nod their heads over and over to the same minutiae that is repeated every week. It would make my life easier.
The last zone meeting put me over the edge and I decided that was enough. I stopped going and studying, told the brother he was wasting his time.
My wife is pregnant and it due is June and thinking of raising a child as a JW sickens me. Tough road ahead.
Anyway, thanks for reading and I look forward to participating on the site.
