Ashitaka:
You last post about reasoning with people beyond reasoning and conditioning of the mind is so true. I am a never-been JW and in dealing with one, you really hit it on the spot.
my first reason is the fact that i was being controlled through the jw social structure, and having to fight to do anything....even whether to wear a tie or not.
the preoccupation with appearance was so debilitating; that was all i was ever concerned with.
and, as i'm not attractive, good in sports, or a conformist, i had very few friends.
Ashitaka:
You last post about reasoning with people beyond reasoning and conditioning of the mind is so true. I am a never-been JW and in dealing with one, you really hit it on the spot.
my best friend is a jw but she can't do anything outside of school with me.
it's really hard cuz she gets jealous when i do things with our other friends outside of school.
we invite her but she's never allowed to go.
Winston,
I really for you because I went through the same situation and let me tell you that it is very disappointing and frustrating. JWs are not allowed to have friends outside their religion. They are in a cult: they are so brainwashed to think what they are doing is right and in their mindset, what is not part of their religion is evil.
What you and I consider normal, they consider it evil. Things like Celebrating Holidays and Birthdays, Giving and Receiving Blood, watching certain types of movies and TV shows and listening to certain types of music. Things like that, they do judge.
my first reason is the fact that i was being controlled through the jw social structure, and having to fight to do anything....even whether to wear a tie or not.
the preoccupation with appearance was so debilitating; that was all i was ever concerned with.
and, as i'm not attractive, good in sports, or a conformist, i had very few friends.
#4 They are very hypocritical and two-faced to people that are not JWs. They portray a nice facade and play the "Mr. Nice Guy" or "Miss Nice Girl" charade. They only befriend non-JWs so just to convert them. When non-JWs are not converted, they are regarded as bad associations and not "friends", but "acquaintances". What a bunch of hypocrites!
who viciously attack the teachings and beliefs of their resigned religion?.
i was thinking of this last night....i have never in my life seen a movement so big as the apostates against jw's..... no other religion has displayed this....usually people just quietly leave and get on with their lives and there is no anomosity...even if they have been wronged by their religion.... but with jw's it's different...it's an all out and out attack on anyone and everyone who has something positive to say.... makes me believe the bible and the jw's even more...being here is setting the doubt in my mind right....
Reborn,
Violet is not baptized yet. That is why she looks everything inside her congo with rose-colored glasses. Once she gets baptized, she'll see the real deal.
I bet you agree with me that, don't you?
basically we're all open minded right?
so lets put aside our negative comments and throw a cyber-space send off for violet's up coming baptism into dubdom.
she said she's planning on getting baptised soon and clearly our advice and negative thoughts are hurting her feelings.
The ultimate rebel in this world is a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS!!!!
and I'm happy to be associated with themTrue because JWs are never to be part of the world. So, since a JW is the ultimate rebel in this world, may I ask "What changes and accomplishment has a Jehovah Witness done in this world for being the ultimate rebel?"
basically we're all open minded right?
so lets put aside our negative comments and throw a cyber-space send off for violet's up coming baptism into dubdom.
she said she's planning on getting baptised soon and clearly our advice and negative thoughts are hurting her feelings.
Let me toast first by saying to Violet,
"Congratulations on becoming a baptized publisher. You will have lots of fun trying to meet publishing quotas. You will always have to go to field service and attend meetings. You will have fun living under the Watchtower Society law and with fear: One messup and you will be reproved or disfellowshipped. You will find out why the Truth really hurts and have fun finding it."
So, VioletAnai, congratulations on your baptism.
jehovah was peace before he made "man", jehovah was peace after he made "man", and jehovah still is peace, so why do we continue to fight?
people who engage in violence/war are foolish, and they knoweth nothing, cause if they knoweth anything they would'nt fight.
when people go to war, they is not killing their enemies, they are only killing more & more of god's children, for the simply fact that we all is god's children...millions fight over lands, but as i mention before this life is not suppose what it's suppose to be, visions of the earthly paradise that was plan from the beginning was jehovah plan, in reality, all of mankind is suppose to enjoy each other visits, from one part of the earth, to other.. why you be so ignorant of the visions of the armageddon messiah?
BTW, U2K:
If you like to be a martyr, suit yourself.
jehovah was peace before he made "man", jehovah was peace after he made "man", and jehovah still is peace, so why do we continue to fight?
people who engage in violence/war are foolish, and they knoweth nothing, cause if they knoweth anything they would'nt fight.
when people go to war, they is not killing their enemies, they are only killing more & more of god's children, for the simply fact that we all is god's children...millions fight over lands, but as i mention before this life is not suppose what it's suppose to be, visions of the earthly paradise that was plan from the beginning was jehovah plan, in reality, all of mankind is suppose to enjoy each other visits, from one part of the earth, to other.. why you be so ignorant of the visions of the armageddon messiah?
If people keep attacking us, Talking things out is "THE ONLY SOLUTION"
Really??? Last I checked, that didn't work with Hitler, the only reason Talking did work against the Soviet Union was because we also had nukes.
If talking dont work, Let'em kill you, Because Having faith in God & Jesus Christ, is the Most important thing, And hope for the resurrection is Good to- Acts 24-15Let'em kill me, I don't think so, buddy. I am not a JW and I do not believe in that. How'bout this? If the situation happens to you, why don't let them kill you and you can hope for the resurrection while I prefer to fight to live?
The Army/Government Dont protect nobody, they just think they do, War is not the answer to Peace, Do I even have to say it again? ha,ha..And ajax, I dont have no religion,...If war is not the answer to peace, then tell me... how would you like to live under Nazi rule or Communist rule?
jehovah was peace before he made "man", jehovah was peace after he made "man", and jehovah still is peace, so why do we continue to fight?
people who engage in violence/war are foolish, and they knoweth nothing, cause if they knoweth anything they would'nt fight.
when people go to war, they is not killing their enemies, they are only killing more & more of god's children, for the simply fact that we all is god's children...millions fight over lands, but as i mention before this life is not suppose what it's suppose to be, visions of the earthly paradise that was plan from the beginning was jehovah plan, in reality, all of mankind is suppose to enjoy each other visits, from one part of the earth, to other.. why you be so ignorant of the visions of the armageddon messiah?
you just did'nt catch on to what I was saying, when I use them
I read the statement clearly and of course it does states that People who participate in War are foolish and stupid.
Now let me give you a creepy scenario: If we lost WWII, you won't be able to practice your religion openly and I cannot express my views freely.
jehovah was peace before he made "man", jehovah was peace after he made "man", and jehovah still is peace, so why do we continue to fight?
people who engage in violence/war are foolish, and they knoweth nothing, cause if they knoweth anything they would'nt fight.
when people go to war, they is not killing their enemies, they are only killing more & more of god's children, for the simply fact that we all is god's children...millions fight over lands, but as i mention before this life is not suppose what it's suppose to be, visions of the earthly paradise that was plan from the beginning was jehovah plan, in reality, all of mankind is suppose to enjoy each other visits, from one part of the earth, to other.. why you be so ignorant of the visions of the armageddon messiah?
When people don't go to war, people will be enslaved.
When people don't go to war, people will always be attacked.
And when people don't go to war, they and their subsequent generation will not survive.
War is not good. True, but war is needed in order to ensure that there is peace and freedom.
So, since you are in the U.S., be thankful that your country has a military to defend your freedom to practice your religion.