Hey comforter.....
Bill is celebrating his 45th baby shower...like a good JW. You do those, remember?
Best wishes to Bill...hugs to the Mrs.
today is bill's birthday.
happy birthday bill.
wishing you a little time to yourself.
Hey comforter.....
Bill is celebrating his 45th baby shower...like a good JW. You do those, remember?
Best wishes to Bill...hugs to the Mrs.
the silentlamb issue is major!
this movement is truly historical and i am proud to be associated with it.
but i was wondering, why is the silentlamb issue getting the major focus?
Because everyone has his own glass house. Most religions have doctrinal blunders, or things to hide. To point to the mistakes of the Borg is a big can of worms. To try to control them through the legal system or through legislation is virtually impossible.
Child abuse is black and white and unlawful.
I think there should be a category under hate crimes for what the Borg does to people, but until there is an actual crime, not just an insidious and immoral group that swallows people whole, no one is accountable.
i have read some heart rending stories here about abuse.
some have commented on their recovery, but many have not.
i am very interested as to what helped you get over a terrible experience.
I went through a group counsellling that was only for about a month. I recognized alot of characteristics in myself that was manifest in others...like the fight or flight response mentioned by Mimilly. It's easier to see traits in others you miss in yourself. I also saw a pattern that I was putting all men in a category that was safe. I figured each one out, put them in a place where I was in control and left it there. But the ones who were outstanding friends brought down that wall. The ones who saw me on the inside and stood by me no matter what. That didn't fit the little category I had set up.
One of my molesters was my father. Due to that, I could not pray to a heavenly father. Then the trust issues come up you don't have with non-family perpetrators. 20 years later I trust almost no one and always cover my back. I can count my friends on one hand, although alot of people count me as theirs. It is very lonely but I found a very caring man also who went through physical abuse by his parents and we just force ourselves to keep the walls down.
Now I find myself with a little peace. If you don't pass it back you pass it on so I wrote letters to everyone I felt was accountable and let 'em have it. Then the rest I packed in a back corner of my brain in a locked box that I can pull out when I need it but it can't control me. I spend my time helping others which helps me.
Past that, I don't know if you ever really move on. You just draw the line between victim and survivor and go from there.
i remember while being a dub, there were many people in the kh i attended that seldom went to a traditional family doctor for common ailments.
they were always praising their alternative methods of non-conventional medicine.
even after they explained in principle how these methods work, i still had difficulty accepting them as safe alternatives.
I have been "into" herbs for about 10 years...6 while a dub, 4 out.
I started on them while pregnant and when I was in the hospital the nurses were amazed at the births of my babies. All the nurses were writing down what I was "on". LOL
Now I try them first for ailments (and ask Mulan for advice of course) before running to the doctor. I have 4 children and we are never on anti-biotics and have been to the doctor less than 10 times in 15 years between us. Our health is so much better than our friends' and relatives. I wish I knew as much as Mulan but I'm learning.
I say they are worth a try. Doctors, chiropractors, surgeons, herbalists, etc. each have their own place and I don't discount any of them.
if i was to meet some of you ladies for the first time, i might be tempted to buy you a bunch of flowers, what spray tickles your fancy the most?
i know for englishmans missus, her ladyship, her bunch of flowers would include freshias.
please give me some advice on the appropriate action i should take if i met you for the first time.
Wild bunches of things. Tulips, irises, daisies, grasses and curly willow. Or something hand-picked by the sweety, even if it's pretty weeds. Much better than grocery store bundles.
Roses have been done to death and should be saved for funerals. Red roses show 0% imagination also. Pink baby roses for babies are sweet.
Formerly a Florist, Forever a romantic,
alamb
so how many here were pioneers?
ha ha ha.
i used up my teenage years pioneering, good thing i didn't go to college or university i could be well educated and in a good job.poo.
I always hated when they would ask the pioneers to stand or raise their hands for some special "atta-boys". I always refused. My mom would be shoving me and I would sit there. I figured I wasn't doing what some 90 year old publisher was doing getting in an hour.
so how many here were pioneers?
ha ha ha.
i used up my teenage years pioneering, good thing i didn't go to college or university i could be well educated and in a good job.poo.
1980-1982 Auxilliary
1983-1990 Regular. Had to quit because on my shepherding call (the loving arrangement) they asked for my card back. I was 4 hours under that month although 100 ahead for the year. I had had a baby that month and had a one-year old to boot. I was really slipping!!! That meeting was the first time I saw their true colors and what matters most to them. Hours over people.
today i had my jeep towed into the shop..i dreaded the ride in with the driver (im extremly shy).
but we ended up haveing a great conversation about what vehicle i should buy next.. what a perfect person to ask cuz of his job.
he said "dont get another jeep they roll too easy and they catch on fire.".
Drive and love: Toyota Camry....249K and not a problem. Just add oil and washer fluid.
Dream wheels: 1970 Chevelle, 454, dualled out, chrome and cherried out....better stop now, I'm having bad thoughts.
draffenville congregation of jehovahs witnesses.
judicial committee elders of:.
murray congregation of jehovahs witnesses.
PRINCIPLES!!!
To be disfellowshipped on false charges for exposing damage is wrong. Black and White. Staying in or not is not the point. Can't we see past this? Once he is "out" the fingers will point at the err in his ways, the 'justice' that was done, and truth will once again be silenced. The brand apostate will be used and minds will be numbed.
Yes, appeals do work. Mine did, after which I da'd myself, at the same meeting. I wanted to leave on my terms and df them. I walked out with my head high. All charges were dropped.
The issue here is integrity. Bill should not settle for being labled or pigeon-holed. He is using each precious moment to speak for those who never got a chance. The majority of those were women without a voice or chance for justice in the "good ol' boys club." Let him yell...he is shouting our battle cry. He is fighting for our children, their children, the children of the future. Children he will never meet. Victims who have been lost to suicide and can no longer cry. Women leading lives with no reason or meaning trying to give to their children what they never received. Holding deception and corruption in the light for all to see.
His motives are not his own.
William: OG meaning resolute protector.
ok here's your chance...not neccesarily your favorite,but what you think is the best one....one vote apiece please... .
mine is he stopped loving her today by george jones...i love the sentiment,that he loved her til the day he died.
cowboyedited by - cowboy on 21 july 2002 6:20:26.
The First Time...Roberta Flack
Just ran through my mind. Probably change in 5 minutes. Woman's prerogative, you know.