Lol all funny and valid observations but im sure the dubbies would say "oh moses didnt make that up, god told him what to write!"
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"Moses, by far the meekest and most humble person" ??
by stuckinarut2 inseriously, how can it be ok for someone to say of themselves that they are "by far the meekest and most humble person" on the earth?.
numbers 12:3 'now the man moses was by far the meekest of all the men on the face of the earth'.
yes, moses was so humble that he told everyone about it!!?!.
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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step
by poopie ini'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
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@juan, the position you suggest already exists. Once a year they (congregation elders) are directed to reach out to all df'd ones and encourage them to return. Thts decades old. A recent CO visit had the elders personally inviting inactive ones to the meeting.
None of that is new or a special ministry or reflective of a shift towards laxing their stance on former members.
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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article
by Perry ini just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .
they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.
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_Morpheus
I think people who are christian would argue that jesus isnt saying 'believe in me or i will condem you". They would argue that we are already condemned and jesus is offering to save...
the problem is the original condemnation comes from the person jesus is claiming to save us from, either himself or his father, depending on your brand of christianity. Its all so obtuse, that we are condemed for something we didnt do (adam and eves sin) and that sin from thousands of years ago means we deserve to die unless another guy dies and makes it ok. So because the other guy died the sky daddy can 'forgive us' but couldnt just forgive us because we didnt do anything wrong in the first place.....
Btw the WT article that prompted this thread was a misprint. A letter to the BoE says it should read "jesus shaves!"
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Regional Conventions 2015 - theme
by Elisa1966 ini came across this website: http://www.ministryideaz.com/2014-jw-regional-convention-notebook-p/cu15dcgr.htm .
there it reads: note taker for 2015-2016 "imitate jesus!
" regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.
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_Morpheus
Phizzy stole my post. It will not in fact be about following jesus. It will be about how jesus follwed the desert god and the gb are doing the same so follow the gb as they lead you to the desert god.
Convoluted? Yep. Predictable? You bet ya.
Its all done so that the dubbies can say "see! We follow jesus! We're christians!" And feel good, never paying attetion to the real message and real dismissal of bible doctrine.
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1 Corinthians 11:3
by XBEHERE inrnwt "but i want you to know that the head of every man is the christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the christ is god.".
sexism aside, how does the wt/gb explain their absolute power over the sheeples based on this scripture?
where are they located in the model listed in that scrtipture?
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Freemind summed it up well. It is indeed an abusive relationship and thats why we who have awoken will never cinvince them they are wrong and cannot wake others up until THEY decide to see it. -
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Memorial on Good Friday?
by ShirleyW injust found out the memorial is this coming friday, which is good friday, don't recall that happening before, or has it?.
just seems strange that the dubs would celebrate their only special day on the same day that christendom celebrates as well..
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If Adam and Eve were perfect, why did their immortality have to be sustained by the Tree of Life?
by I_love_Jeff init was access to this tree that kept adam and eve in a "perfect" state.
that is why they were kicked out of the garden.
actually, they may not have found the fruit at the time of their expulsion.
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Your answer regarding immortality and everlasting life is spot on, as far as witness doctrine is concerned.
according to dubbie doctrine the differance is that immortality (a greek concept btw) is "a spring of life inside of the person that dosent need to be sustained". Everlasting life is living forever but being sustained by external forces (meaning the desert god).
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March Broadcast- Jehovah is speeding up the work
by adjusted knowledge ini watched some of the segments on the jw broadcast.
in the video they showed how they managed their inventory orders for the congregations.
at the conclusion it was stated by the narrator how god is speeding up the work.. the problem is the system they implemented has been used for over two decades in logistics.
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Totally hoser! In fact, while i always could see the "business" aspect of the religion, more than ever it feels "corporate" in way i never imagined. -
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March Broadcast- Jehovah is speeding up the work
by adjusted knowledge ini watched some of the segments on the jw broadcast.
in the video they showed how they managed their inventory orders for the congregations.
at the conclusion it was stated by the narrator how god is speeding up the work.. the problem is the system they implemented has been used for over two decades in logistics.
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_Morpheus
Indeed. Long gone are the days when the wtbs was an innovator. They were a decade behind the internet and are still lagging in so many technical areas.
I also have to lol at the idea of the desert god speeding up the work.. That claim is a 100 years old. The poor guys is either extremely ineffective at speeding things up or the organization is moving so fast it appears to be standing still. How much faster can it possibly go adter 100 years of acceleration lol ?
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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step
by poopie ini'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
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_Morpheus
Poopie, let me save you some trouble: a letter YOU sent them means nothing in regard to changing policy.
THe. policy. Isnt. Changing. Its not even being discussed.