i keep thinking about the time i will "come out" and tell my wife about this sick cult.
i don't know when that day will come, but knowing me i will seat down with her and ask her for 5 minutes to explain to her why we as a family has to get out.
my question is: what will you tell somebody in 5 minutes, that will convince that perdon that this is not a good religion to follow and that we have been deceived?.
Absolutely nothing. Not a single word, phrase, speech or diatribe can, in 5 min, undo cult programing.
MAYBE you can lay some groundwork. MAYBE you can start a discussion that will last months (if your lucky) or years (if the relationship lasts that long) but positively will not accomplish your goal in 5 min.
very interesting article on the psychology of sexual abstinence and the effects it can have on sex life after marriage.
it focusses on an evangelical group for single men called "the river" but the attitudes will be familiar to born-in jws.. ___________________________.
..respondents had been told, since they were young, that women were nonsexual.
truth light and truth express could just lead back to truth v1.0.
the following is just shooting the breeze, so take the following with a tablespoon of salt:.
i've been thinking about the "something interesting!
Saint, i think your missing the obvious, the first rule of power: those that have it never want to give it up.
The trend is never to be "less organized " or have fewer rules. Its always more more more. They have become more and more like the catholic church with every passing day. I cant see them willingly giving any of that up
the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
wondering what to think...i'm recently divorced from my jw spouse ( i was never a jw).
we have a 11 year old son who is being forced to attend meetings and have all the beliefs that ex has.
i'm constantly being told what i should do and i'm supposed to go along with ex on whatever he says because apparently the "head of the family" continues after divorce in his world.
Yep they are definitely 'dating' by org definitions and as doc and sir82 noted he could be eventually df'd....
if i were you i wouldnt give the prick the satisfaction unless you had something in writing that made it worth it for you.
just got a phone call from an older sister saying that a couple that got re-assigned from bethel 4 years ago to live at their kh apartment as special pioneers, just received a letter saying "as of january 2016, your special pioneer assignment will be discontinued".. they live in a south miami kh(snapper creek congregation).. this couple had only served in bethel for 15 years before they were sent out into the special pioneer work.
they are now in their mid 50's and the sister said that they have to find part time jobs to support themselves.. the older sister (does not have a pc or internet), says that the couple are just devastated!
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i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
Now we got us a thread! Bananas and human dna coupled with nonevolving computer programs and a someone foolish enoigh to tangle with viv/coffy.
new over under is +- 25 pages
i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
we are madly in love with each other and she is in the process of being divorced.
let me make one thing clear i'm not the reason for the divorce.
she attempted to reconcile with him but to no avail.
"Again I would like to thank everyone for their comments and advise. It is deeply appreciated. I wish at least one present JW would voice their opinion. "
Just as an aside, what you have read on this forum is 99.9% written by JW's. Almost everyone here either is or was an active JW. Its sort of niche geoup in that regard. If you were never a jw the board probably dosent appeal to you, the notable exception being if you married to a jw or were somehow closely tied to one.
What you are reading is the sum total of centeries of combined jw experiance.
In the end your a grown man and will do as you wish. You SHOULD do as you wish. We will still be here for you in a six months when you come back asking how to deal with her now that shes gone back to the cult and wont sleep with you anymore, never wants to do anything except go to her cult meetings, assemblies and knocking on peoples doors on the weekend. We will be here for you when you complain about her not respecting your right to observe holidays in your own home. We will be here for you when you complain about how the church elders are involved in your marriage to an uncomfortable degree, telling her how to treat you and making decisions for her. We will be here when she dosent want to associate with your family because they are "worldly" or go to company events with you for the same reason. We will be here for you when she starts obsessively preaching to you, trying to convert you to her faith. We will help you reason with her from the bible although she will ignore it. We will help you share with her the history of her reilgion although she wont believe it or want to hear it from you. We will be here for you through all of that and more.
just dont say we didnt warn you.
