Posts by _Morpheus

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Best Bethel stories

by optimisticskeptic in

i temped at bethel 3 times for varying lengths of time and found working there to not always be the rosy picture some would paint.

not a surprise really, but i think one of the things that surprised me the most was how a lot of the permanent bethelites (especially older ones) were so impersonal to temps.

they acted like you weren't worth investing their time in since you weren't permanent.

_Morpheus

You had to know gary cash to get how funny this really was....

but gary cash managed to get his hands on a whole pan of peach cobbler. A wholllle pan.

So he takes this pan of peach cobbler first thing in the morning and sets it on the flat work iron. The flatwork iron was used for napkins and bed sheets etc etc and had a roller that pulled the flat items in and used rollers to press them. It has a huge cabinet that was warm and he set the pan on top to warm it up.

the pan somehow ended up falling IN the iron. The whole laundry was filled with the aroma of peach cobbler... so greg scharf (floor overseer) investigates and finds the flat work iron destroyed with cobbler in it and ends up identifying gary cash as the culprit... all we could hear was gary saying “chuck i dont know what happened!! It just fell right in!” 😂😂😂😂😂

you had to know gary and what a screw up he was but it was hilarious

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If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!

by venus in

many people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.

in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).

it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.

_Morpheus

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If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!

by venus in

many people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.

in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).

it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.

_Morpheus

You completely misunderstand and misapply the first law of thermodynamics.

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If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!

by venus in

many people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.

in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).

it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.

_Morpheus

@snare- dilly dilly

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The Opinion From the Appellate Court Regarding the Padron Case

by pometerre21 in

thought i would post the link to the actual opinion regarding watchtower's refusal to release documents:.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4214443-padron-appeal-opinion.html.

i sat reading all thirty-nine pages and it made me sick afterwards.

_Morpheus

It was discussed quiet a bit in this thread:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5683529281175552/why-wont-legal-department-simply-release-all-secret-pedophile-files

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If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!

by venus in

many people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.

in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).

it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.

_Morpheus

Seems true to me.

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If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!

by venus in

many people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.

in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).

it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.

_Morpheus

lol oh boy. Now you know what i know and what i think. This is as pointless as every other believer debate.

You have no proof.

You will never have proof.

Your god isnt real.

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If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!

by venus in

many people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.

in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).

it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.

_Morpheus

No venus, your too simple. We didnt get hung up on the word math, you got hung up on god.

no. Proof.

Give proof, i believe.

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Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children

by cha ching in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.

interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..

_Morpheus

So my question becomes, then, why cite that case? It appeared you were citing it as proof of OC’s claim that these things happen often, in contridiction to my claim that they dont.

My end game point is that the action taken in russia is extreme and awful. It dosent happen in western lands. Its bizzare and sickening to see posters like brokeback tap dance on these families misery and heartache as if it somehow justifies their hard feelings toward the wt.

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Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children

by cha ching in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.

interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..

_Morpheus

Dark, very disingenuous to cite this case as the courts taking a child from parents over jw beliefs.

The FATHER made the claim NOT the state. It was a very contentious divorce according to the courts records and there were huge issues raised by both parents making neither of them viable as gardians in the view of the courts.

This type of misrepresentation is exactly what i accused of orphan of. Courts absolutely intervene to order medical treatment over a parents religious objections, and not just jw religious objections. What western courts dont do is take children from otherwise competent parents over religious views. You have offrered no proof otherwise.