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  the watchtower is starting to crumble

  by pepperheart in

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  for the december monthly broadcast instead of jws from around the world waving to you and items of how to shun people we will have to make do with repeats of of old gilead videos that have been on the jw website for a good while.

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  Lol yes slim, i love reading your “slimboy joins...” series, especially because of your lense as a (maybe sometimes former) jw and comparing the worship and membership from a place i can relate too.

  That said, dosent the long lasting (comparatively) power of lessor churches like the Unitarians show you that the org can hang around for a long long time? The org wields absolute power over millions as opposed to so many of the churches you visited who wield zero power but still limp along.

  A few years from now we will all still be on this forum, talking about the latest wt insanity and wondering how people can still buy it. You will still vasilate and try to downplay this discussion but the org isnt going anywhere.
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  the watchtower is starting to crumble

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
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  for the december monthly broadcast instead of jws from around the world waving to you and items of how to shun people we will have to make do with repeats of of old gilead videos that have been on the jw website for a good while.

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  Oh boy so now we are down to a few years... it was 10 or 20 years just a few months ago, slim.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5697300724711424/question-sbf

  slim, im not trying to pick on you or be hard on you, but its easy to get caught up in one piece of news or one event and lose the big picture. You go back and forth between the org being gone today or the org hanging around for decades and slowly declining. Its fine, of course, to modify your views or change your mind, but when you blow with the wind its hard to take it seriously.

  Reports of the orgs demise are greatly exaggerated, to borrow a turn of phrase. The org is changing, not dying. The presentation this month is NEW, although its telling that they didnt put a jw org program together. In the old days they never dropped one program for another. I think this is a case of realizing most jw’s wouldnt invest the time to watch both.
  
  
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  The end of an era ......

  by snare&racket in

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  i have written some time ago, about how the religion i grew up in no longer exists.

  i was an 80’s jw kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.

  they have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible.

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  “But this scene... was not supposed to happen in the religion I grew up in”

  that, x2
  
  
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  Toasted daughter: Why Jephthah almost certainly sacrificed his daughter to a complicit Jehovah

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
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  jehovah's witnesses insist that jephthah did not sacrifice his daughter to jehovah.

  this is important to them because, rarther than jephthah just being a random bad person, jehovah was very much in on the deal.

  after all, he made the promise to jehovah that he would "offer up as a burnt offering" on his return the first thing to come out of his house if jehovah would give the ammonites into his hands in battle, and since they were this makes jehovah complicit.. the isrealites had been getting a good thrashing of late, and the gilead elders (oh boy) had come out to ask jephthah, the rejected son of a prostitute (wouldn't you know it) and renown soldier, if he would lead the isrealites into battle for them.. this is when jephthah makes the deal with jehobo, and it all centres on the word for "burnt offering", which is given as "olah".

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  Wow tor.... your saying that god Almighty, smart enough to make the universe and everything in it, including the complex bio mechanical machine we call “humans”, is subject to error? He speaks before he thinks and therefore needs to change his mind....? How very human of him
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  CLAM MEETING Dumbing down

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  so yesterday was the midweek meeting - the first of the month for december so instead of locals doing the little talk skits we get the on screen shadow puppets.. after each one the ms taking the item asks the congregation for "positive" comments.. part way through i get a text from a pimo brother enduring the show which reads thus (and i quote word for word ...).

  "it's like listening to a bunch of people from a mental institution.

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  Doc, any snippets i see posted or things i hear from old friends are positively revolting. Its not the religion we knew.
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  CLAM MEETING Dumbing down

  by freddo in

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  so yesterday was the midweek meeting - the first of the month for december so instead of locals doing the little talk skits we get the on screen shadow puppets.. after each one the ms taking the item asks the congregation for "positive" comments.. part way through i get a text from a pimo brother enduring the show which reads thus (and i quote word for word ...).

  "it's like listening to a bunch of people from a mental institution.

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  “Christian life and ministry meeting” aka CLAM.

  *puke*
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  Can someone tell me why Joan's ark and the flood not true and impossible?

  by Gokumonkey in

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  2. beliefs

  hey everyone.

  i have a question and i hope i'm not confusing this with something else i heard.

  while watching ex jw videos on youtube many of them talk about how noah's ark and the flood didn't happen and it's impossible.

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  And even if you want to believe that god made them sleep on the ark what did they eat while vegetation replenished on earth?? What season was it when they left the ark??? Where did the seeds to regrow the entire variety of earths flora come from???

  So many questions and absolutely no answers. Because its the biggest load manure since “a snake made me do it”
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  Unbelievable KMS example

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  i've been to the kingdom ministry school (for elders) recently and can report that it is mostly the usual mix of cliches and platitudes.

  several letters where basically just read through one line at a time.

  one point early on though almost made me laugh out loud.

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  @sadelder- your welcome
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  CLAM MEETING Dumbing down

  by freddo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so yesterday was the midweek meeting - the first of the month for december so instead of locals doing the little talk skits we get the on screen shadow puppets.. after each one the ms taking the item asks the congregation for "positive" comments.. part way through i get a text from a pimo brother enduring the show which reads thus (and i quote word for word ...).

  "it's like listening to a bunch of people from a mental institution.

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  I make it a matter of personal pride that i have never been to a “clam”. I have deep sympathy for those that have to endure that nonsense
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  Can someone tell me why Joan's ark and the flood not true and impossible?

  by Gokumonkey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey everyone.

  i have a question and i hope i'm not confusing this with something else i heard.

  while watching ex jw videos on youtube many of them talk about how noah's ark and the flood didn't happen and it's impossible.

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  Forget the meat eaters, how much vegetation did they need for all the herbivores (like elephants) FOR A YEAR? Complete bullshit.