Freemind summed it up well. It is indeed an abusive relationship and thats why we who have awoken will never cinvince them they are wrong and cannot wake others up until THEY decide to see it.
_Morpheus
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1 Corinthians 11:3
by XBEHERE inrnwt "but i want you to know that the head of every man is the christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the christ is god.".
sexism aside, how does the wt/gb explain their absolute power over the sheeples based on this scripture?
where are they located in the model listed in that scrtipture?
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Memorial on Good Friday?
by ShirleyW injust found out the memorial is this coming friday, which is good friday, don't recall that happening before, or has it?.
just seems strange that the dubs would celebrate their only special day on the same day that christendom celebrates as well..
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If Adam and Eve were perfect, why did their immortality have to be sustained by the Tree of Life?
by I_love_Jeff init was access to this tree that kept adam and eve in a "perfect" state.
that is why they were kicked out of the garden.
actually, they may not have found the fruit at the time of their expulsion.
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_Morpheus
Your answer regarding immortality and everlasting life is spot on, as far as witness doctrine is concerned.
according to dubbie doctrine the differance is that immortality (a greek concept btw) is "a spring of life inside of the person that dosent need to be sustained". Everlasting life is living forever but being sustained by external forces (meaning the desert god).
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March Broadcast- Jehovah is speeding up the work
by adjusted knowledge ini watched some of the segments on the jw broadcast.
in the video they showed how they managed their inventory orders for the congregations.
at the conclusion it was stated by the narrator how god is speeding up the work.. the problem is the system they implemented has been used for over two decades in logistics.
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Totally hoser! In fact, while i always could see the "business" aspect of the religion, more than ever it feels "corporate" in way i never imagined. -
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March Broadcast- Jehovah is speeding up the work
by adjusted knowledge ini watched some of the segments on the jw broadcast.
in the video they showed how they managed their inventory orders for the congregations.
at the conclusion it was stated by the narrator how god is speeding up the work.. the problem is the system they implemented has been used for over two decades in logistics.
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_Morpheus
Indeed. Long gone are the days when the wtbs was an innovator. They were a decade behind the internet and are still lagging in so many technical areas.
I also have to lol at the idea of the desert god speeding up the work.. That claim is a 100 years old. The poor guys is either extremely ineffective at speeding things up or the organization is moving so fast it appears to be standing still. How much faster can it possibly go adter 100 years of acceleration lol ?
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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step
by poopie ini'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
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_Morpheus
Poopie, let me save you some trouble: a letter YOU sent them means nothing in regard to changing policy.
THe. policy. Isnt. Changing. Its not even being discussed.
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Son handed me a Pamphlet today!
by J-DUBBED indidn't know how to react.
seeing as to how i've been trying to "love bomb" him and trying to bring out his original persona by having him talk about old times with our hobbies, etc.
i just said not interested........i said i've lost faith in all religions.
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_Morpheus
The best policy, imho, is what you did.... Don't overreact. Offer your view, smile and move on. Fighting the cult mindset isnt won through overt punchs, its encouraging the things you mentioned, free thought being the most critical. I get miles better results with my kids when i simply ask them "what do YOU think" and reafrirm any answer that isnt the cults. Him offering you a tract is no big deal. He maybe didnt want anything more than to see how you would react or maybe he just wanted to reach out to you and that was an easy way that came to mind. Offer to do something with him that saturday immediatly after the memorial. -
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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step
by poopie ini'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
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Kewpie, i agree people shouldnt be mocked simply because english isnt their first language.
I think in this case it stems from two root causes:
1) in the united states and other primarly english language cultures, many fraud artists send spam emails that are very poorly written and translated into english via google or similar means. Those phising emails come acrros reading very much like the OP here. Given the very dubious nature of the OP it all adds up to a very spammy or phishy reading post.
2) its relevant because the service department (and all others for that matter) at headquarters here in the USA are all english speaking. For the poster to have so much trouble posting in english casts another shadow of doubt on his claims. If the language barrier between english and whatever his or her native tounge may be is so signifigant how could they possibly effectivly communicate with the english speaking service department, let alone fordge friendships strong enough to get access to confidential information regarding a future relaxing of the "shunning" policy?
Thus it seems relevant in this case and for those reasons to question the posters grasp of english. Further, as noted before, i actually DO have "friends" (former aquantinces who would shun me if they knew i was apostate) in writing and service. They have both assured me that absolutly no information is forthcomming regarding a relaxing of any policy on DF'ing or the so called shunning aspect of it.
The OP is complete and total malarky.
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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step
by poopie ini'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
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_Morpheus
@poopie- you are absolutly not in touch with anyone in writing or teaching. I have "friends" who are in fact in writing and they have for certain affirmed that any rumor regarding an end to the DF'ing arrangment as we know it (including so called shunning) is absolutely untrue.
Normally i wouldnt care about silly tripe like your post but this particilar policy causes a lot of people personal discomfort and pain. I hate to see them have false expectations of relief based on your obvious lies and exagerations.
The policy is going nowhere.
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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left
by Designer Stubble init appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.
it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.
the lost one i will search for2.
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_Morpheus
Holy ***** berry! Great catch! They couldnt even bothered to write something new!!!! They are so short on material they just coppied and pasted an article and published it as new