No appology needed :) it was great to read that and you expressed well so many of things we all deal with as a result of the cult
_Morpheus
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Suicide or Real Freedom? - My Story As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses
by dubstepped in"sometimes i think the only thing i could do that wouldn't upset someone would be to kill myself.".
those were the frustrated words of my friend as we stood out in his large yard in the country, just about to enjoy a nice bonfire on a beautiful night.
what was it that could have been a lesser evil than killing himself?
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Give me 5 minutes to explain...
by pixel ini keep thinking about the time i will "come out" and tell my wife about this sick cult.
i don't know when that day will come, but knowing me i will seat down with her and ask her for 5 minutes to explain to her why we as a family has to get out.
my question is: what will you tell somebody in 5 minutes, that will convince that perdon that this is not a good religion to follow and that we have been deceived?.
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_Morpheus
Absolutely nothing. Not a single word, phrase, speech or diatribe can, in 5 min, undo cult programing.
MAYBE you can lay some groundwork. MAYBE you can start a discussion that will last months (if your lucky) or years (if the relationship lasts that long) but positively will not accomplish your goal in 5 min.
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The Effects of Sexual Abstinence Before Marriage
by cofty invery interesting article on the psychology of sexual abstinence and the effects it can have on sex life after marriage.
it focusses on an evangelical group for single men called "the river" but the attitudes will be familiar to born-in jws.. ___________________________.
..respondents had been told, since they were young, that women were nonsexual.
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_Morpheus
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Truth light and Truth Express could just lead back to Truth v1.0
by Saintbertholdt intruth light and truth express could just lead back to truth v1.0.
the following is just shooting the breeze, so take the following with a tablespoon of salt:.
i've been thinking about the "something interesting!
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_Morpheus
Saint, i think your missing the obvious, the first rule of power: those that have it never want to give it up.
The trend is never to be "less organized " or have fewer rules. Its always more more more. They have become more and more like the catholic church with every passing day. I cant see them willingly giving any of that up
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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)
by Daniel1555 inthe following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
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Wow that example really seems to ratchet up the shunning up a notch. Not to sugguest that it wasn't always the case, it was and has been, but any talk of relaxing the shunning policy is obviously premature. -
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dating even though not scripturally free to do so
by seekingadvice inwondering what to think...i'm recently divorced from my jw spouse ( i was never a jw).
we have a 11 year old son who is being forced to attend meetings and have all the beliefs that ex has.
i'm constantly being told what i should do and i'm supposed to go along with ex on whatever he says because apparently the "head of the family" continues after divorce in his world.
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_Morpheus
Yep they are definitely 'dating' by org definitions and as doc and sir82 noted he could be eventually df'd....
if i were you i wouldnt give the prick the satisfaction unless you had something in writing that made it worth it for you.
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Special Pioneer Couple Living at a Kingdom Hall In Miami FL, get the dreaded Letter
by James Jack injust got a phone call from an older sister saying that a couple that got re-assigned from bethel 4 years ago to live at their kh apartment as special pioneers, just received a letter saying "as of january 2016, your special pioneer assignment will be discontinued".. they live in a south miami kh(snapper creek congregation).. this couple had only served in bethel for 15 years before they were sent out into the special pioneer work.
they are now in their mid 50's and the sister said that they have to find part time jobs to support themselves.. the older sister (does not have a pc or internet), says that the couple are just devastated!
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious ini know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
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_Morpheus
Your motive dosent matter, only her perception. The over under stands at 25 pages -
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious ini know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
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_Morpheus
Now we got us a thread! Bananas and human dna coupled with nonevolving computer programs and a someone foolish enoigh to tangle with viv/coffy.
new over under is +- 25 pages
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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?
by Tenacious ini know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?
was it the wts and all its crap?
was it something you read?
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_Morpheus
@tenatious -Nature, in its various forms, has always existed. No god created it. In the infinitude that is nature, innumerable universes are successively produced and destroyed through periodic convulsions. Our universe is only one of many and like all such universes ours was formed from the wreckage of the previous cosmos... And so the next universe will be formed from the ruins of our cosmos... This process is independent of any god.