you guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right?
i know people who have done exactly this.
you have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.
Sigh..... i appreciate the passion but a moments pause will reveal the real truth:
'a believer' is here because he is hooked on the real truth. He (or she) shows up and reads whats the the truth about the truth and iHe (or She) has already been touched by it.
There is no need to be rough with him or her and no need to be offended by his or her attempts to defend. Its nothing more than the initial phase of waking up and sorting through the pain of having suckered into the cult.
maybe there will be a mass exodus from jws when thinking people read feb 2017 watchtower telling them the governing body stuff up, shouldnt expect correct/ perfect information and basically make up guff as they see fit.....ya reckon?.
Sigh.... humans have such short memories. Use the search feature and se ehow many times this question has been asked over some seeming damning statment in a wt article.
The mass exodus never happens.
Lets learn from the past.
The cult has been around for over 100 years and has said stupid thing after stupid thing.. they have contridicted themselves and lied and done whatever they needed or wanted to... and people still show up on Sunday.
Read this aloud to yourself:
I accept that there will never be a mass exodus out of the cult.
repeat as necessary.
Trading belief in a fairy tale paradise for belief in a mass exodus from the cult dosent make it less a fairy tale.
the february 2017 wt had stated that the gb is "neither inspired nor infallible" and that it can make errors in doctrine.. the language of the online wt issue now says, “the governing body is neither inspired nor perfect.
therefore, it can make mistakes when explaining the bible or directing the organization.”.
why the change?
Amd remember tm3 from the usa zone visit.... if you have a problem with what they say, take it up with jesus
"a believer" seems to be our new apologist/disobedient sheep.
"a believer" ignores the "spirit-directed"/"bible-based" commands of the gb/fds!
shame on you, "a believer"!!!!
Believer, i think the question you need to ask yourself is..... why? What does the organization not want you to hear from former members.......
"a believer" seems to be our new apologist/disobedient sheep.
"a believer" ignores the "spirit-directed"/"bible-based" commands of the gb/fds!
shame on you, "a believer"!!!!
The organization has a very strong stand against any interaction with former believers. Many many here are former believers
"a believer" seems to be our new apologist/disobedient sheep.
"a believer" ignores the "spirit-directed"/"bible-based" commands of the gb/fds!
shame on you, "a believer"!!!!
The organization discourages association on the internet in general and certainly forbidds association with those were once believers but have left the pattern of healthful words. Dont get me wrong, im not telling you to leave, but the organization certainly would say its wrong for you to be here.
https://youtu.be/9xxco63rizg .
watch the video , he says that the cults teaching are not based on the bible and then provides the quote.
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Sigh.. the quotes dont say exactly what he says. The point was that the new world translation wasnt translated to form the foundation of witness teaching not that the bible isnt the foundation. This type of dishonesty does no one favors
have any or you seen the show black mirror?
there is an episode called white christmas.
its based in the future and everyone has this app in their brain similar to a modern smartphone.
The show is brilliant and indeed episode reminded me of df'ing.... its very unsettling in fact
i go to a hall (very rarely) with a single cong of about 60 people in a small city of maybe 10000. our board of elders is a bunch of childless weirdos or at least the ones that make an effort.. they recently changed the sunday meeting time from 10/12 to 1/ 3. a number of us are pissed off.
its makes to hard to drive to the city or go to a football game.. i just know the gestopo elders behind the change.
if your life isnt as miserable or pointless as theirs, they arent doing their job.
Lotta good advise here, i will just add my .02...
everything is a choice. You are choosing to go to the meeting as much as they choose to change the time.
A man chooses. A slave obeys.
Remind yourself of that as often as you need to... then choose.
Or obey.
the choice is yours
the usa, claiming that the usa supports freedom, has often supported revolutionaries/dissenters in other countries.. some examples:.
currently, the syrian war commenced circa 2011 in the so-called arab spring.
it is claimed that the usa supplied weapons to anti-government forces.
More hyperbole. As a gun owning citizen of the united states i can verify that purchasing and owning a firearm is not the easiest thing in our coutry. Its far easier to buy milk and butter, for example, than a firearm.
if the op was a an entry way to discuss American presence in foreign politics then im all for it! Perhaps we could also discuss chinas influance in north/south korea ....
