Which is absolutely zero profit, sparky. The rags were a means to an end, a way to fleece jws and give them busy work, maybe pick up some converts along the way.
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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As always, averagejo, when people want to knock America i say to you: if you dont like it here find somehwere better. We dont need or want you. And if you live elsewhere then by all means stay and enjoy.
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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Which is why its done on a congregation level. No need to monitor individuals. As long as someone gives the required amount its all good. As for penalties... my old congregation missed the mark one month. A letter (email) from the branch followed immediately as well as a call from the CO. The difference was made up very quickly . Cult FOG is very strong and no real action needs to be taken to be effective. No whole congregation is going to rebel and not donate the mandatory coerced donation just like on the circuit level. And congregations that simply cant... we have already seen what happens. They contract.
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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Slim there is no confusion. As i said call it whatever you want its a mandatory donation. A rose by any other name....
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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Sparky, i dont know why we continue to try, other than to pass the time, which is why im about to try again...
sheherdless, lets consider your argument:
”For most of its history, it made the bulk of its money selling magazines (and in the early days, books) to members of the public, not so much its own members. I think one of the Studies in The Scriptures books was the third highest selling book of all time, at one stage long ago (the bible holding the no 1 spot).”
that is 100% backwards. The primary audiance for wt litercrap is jw’s. Nobody outside the wt org gives a damn about their interpretation of the bible and damn sure dont care about their rules and regs which is what their rags
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”Other religions tithe. “
As i have said over and over the wt ALREADY tithes with the perpetual kh loan and will tithe on individual members when it becomes necessary. They wont call it that but thats what it will be and rank and file will accept it readily.
“If you count elders as clergy, Watchtower has a much higher ratio of clergy to adherents than other religions”
uhmmm... so what? What does that have to do with their finical situation? Elders are unpaid. Its irrelevant.
“Other religions do have businesses. SDA has food companies, nursing homes, a University, and goodness knows what else. Catholics have huge property portfolios, schools, hospitals, hospices etc. Other religions are far less micromanaging. Watchtower has to come up with a new "church" service twice a week, whereas Catholics, for example, give the identical church service every 3 years. And to top it off, many Christian religions are starting to struggle.”
none of that has anything to do with the orgs money situation. You may as well have been quoting from works of homer. Separate what you want (the orgs collapse) from whats factual. They have adherants. The adherants have money. They give money to the org. Simple buissness model. Easy to understand. Works.
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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Im just going to start quoting myself until you address the point i (and others) are making:
“Its always made its money selling hope and dreams of panda petting paradise to people. Books were just the vehicle to do that. As long as people are buying pipe dreams the wt will ALWAYS survive in the same way every other religion has survived, religions that oh by the way NEVER sold books to begin with. Hell most religions have sold nothing since their inception and done very well.”
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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Now now slim, lets read what i actually said and not what you want me to have to said...
i never said the org was A OK. I 100% admitted that they had finical problems and had to retool and revamp the operation.
Quote me where i said otherwise.
What i did say was they are not in imminent danger of collapse as you have said over and over.
Lets simplify this... Your whole argument is based on the premise that they no longer sell books or mags and therefore cannot make money anymore. You have said it a dozen times and we get it.
HOWEVER your completely wrong. The wt never its money from selling publications. Never. Its always made its money selling hope and dreams of panda petting paradise to people. Books were just the vehicle to do that. As long as people are buying pipe dreams the wt will ALWAYS survive in the same way every other religion has survived, religions that oh by the way NEVER sold books to begin with. Hell most religions have sold nothing since their inception and done very well.
The org will simply find new ways to separate the sheep from their money as every other religion always has and will have an easier time than most since its a high control cult. Why you are so blind to this i can only assume is your personal wind mill tilt and thats fine, but im not buying that particular brand of crazy today.
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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Fisherman, you’ve offered no more evidance than anyone else of your view. For those of us that dont think the org is in danger, we have the ONLY evidance:
the org is still going. They just built a new hq. they have sold billions in property.
That is evidance that they are ok. You, slim and those that imagine the sky is falling have nothing but conjecture and hope coupled with inference and dreams.
The org is fine. Prove otherwise.
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Newyork, i feel exactly the same. Everytime im at a ball game now i stand proudly and clap loudly when its over