In fairness, TD, “sanction” wasnt my word, it was slims. I was simply pointing out that mormons use simple cult Fear Obligation Guilt to coerce memebers into tithing and are effective at it. Hell mormons dont even “disfellowship” or shun as harshly as Jw’s. When the org is ready to tithe they will do it and be effective. They wont call it a tithe and wont have to. Dubbies will support. Slim fishman and others are way overthinking this. Mormons dubbies fill in the blank, its all the same. Cult religion whatever, they survive selling truth and hope of future happines and they are successful.
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can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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Lol slim we are just going around and around.... liturature WASNT making money. It was simply a vehicle to make feel obligated to donate. Also you didnt show that mormons “sanction” for failing to tithe. They just can't hold positions... so what? Dubbies do that as well. If you dont make ur fs hours you cant be an elder or ms.... tithing wouldnt be any different. Your overthinking this
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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They will survive but For how long? Well according to you slim and others anywhere from 30 seconds to 30 years. Give slim long enough and he will talk himself into anywhere from they have already dissolved and we just dont know it yet to only 10,000 more years.
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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I know in florida that can be typical, slim, but thats all demographics. Older population nets more elders per pub. Not at all typical
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
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I admit a certain level of hyperbole but the profit wasnt great enough to be considered their main source of income. The rags are for believers. They are not directly analogous to newspapers. As for more bethelites producing a web page..? Really, more required to make a web page than print and ship hard (physical) literature? I’ll let you think about that position for a while before i bother responding
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
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Which is absolutely zero profit, sparky. The rags were a means to an end, a way to fleece jws and give them busy work, maybe pick up some converts along the way.
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As always, averagejo, when people want to knock America i say to you: if you dont like it here find somehwere better. We dont need or want you. And if you live elsewhere then by all means stay and enjoy.
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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Which is why its done on a congregation level. No need to monitor individuals. As long as someone gives the required amount its all good. As for penalties... my old congregation missed the mark one month. A letter (email) from the branch followed immediately as well as a call from the CO. The difference was made up very quickly . Cult FOG is very strong and no real action needs to be taken to be effective. No whole congregation is going to rebel and not donate the mandatory coerced donation just like on the circuit level. And congregations that simply cant... we have already seen what happens. They contract.
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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Slim there is no confusion. As i said call it whatever you want its a mandatory donation. A rose by any other name....
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by Fisherman inslimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
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Sparky, i dont know why we continue to try, other than to pass the time, which is why im about to try again...
sheherdless, lets consider your argument:
”For most of its history, it made the bulk of its money selling magazines (and in the early days, books) to members of the public, not so much its own members. I think one of the Studies in The Scriptures books was the third highest selling book of all time, at one stage long ago (the bible holding the no 1 spot).”
that is 100% backwards. The primary audiance for wt litercrap is jw’s. Nobody outside the wt org gives a damn about their interpretation of the bible and damn sure dont care about their rules and regs which is what their rags
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”Other religions tithe. “
As i have said over and over the wt ALREADY tithes with the perpetual kh loan and will tithe on individual members when it becomes necessary. They wont call it that but thats what it will be and rank and file will accept it readily.
“If you count elders as clergy, Watchtower has a much higher ratio of clergy to adherents than other religions”
uhmmm... so what? What does that have to do with their finical situation? Elders are unpaid. Its irrelevant.
“Other religions do have businesses. SDA has food companies, nursing homes, a University, and goodness knows what else. Catholics have huge property portfolios, schools, hospitals, hospices etc. Other religions are far less micromanaging. Watchtower has to come up with a new "church" service twice a week, whereas Catholics, for example, give the identical church service every 3 years. And to top it off, many Christian religions are starting to struggle.”
none of that has anything to do with the orgs money situation. You may as well have been quoting from works of homer. Separate what you want (the orgs collapse) from whats factual. They have adherants. The adherants have money. They give money to the org. Simple buissness model. Easy to understand. Works.